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CF 010: Surprise Unique Information Shows Chiropractic May Work On The Brain Too

Surprise Unique Information Shows Chiropractic May Work On The Brain Too

Welcome to the Chiropractic Forward podcast. I am your host Dr. Jeff Williams and we’re exctied to have you along for the ride. In today’s show, we’re going to talk about how chiropractic may work in the brain itself rather than how it affects just the musculoskeletal system.  We include some intriguing stuff from New Zealand that will make you think, hmmmm, that’s interesting, and we’ll have a little fun along the way

Bring on the bumper music

Again, I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast This is where we talk about issues related to health, chiropractic, evidence, and research and how those things all fit into a comprehensive approach for treating different conditions. Thank you for taking time out of your day to give us a listen. I know your time is valuable and I will always try hard to fill our time with valuable content.

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For anyone that has paid any amount of attention to chiropractic, it’s clear that chiropractic treats muscles, bones, and the biomechanics overall. But what some people don’t commonly consider is the fact that chiropractic is effective when treating the nerves that make it all work together.

For instance, what do you think about when you think of chiropractic? More than likely, you think about back pain, neck pain, athletes, and headaches and migraines. It is unlikely that phrases like “cortical drive” or “movement related cortical potential” comes to mind.

According to the author of the paper we’re going to be talking about today, “Scientists use to believe spinal manipulation was a biomechanical treatment option for spinal pain conditions. However, the growing basic science evidence suggests there may be more of a neurophysiological effect following spinal manipulation than previously realized.”

When we begin to talk about the brain, physiology, neurology, and neurological processes, you can get into some highly complicated terms and ideas. I’m going to do everything I can to put it into terms that anyone and everyone can easily process without having a year of neurology classes.

And let’s be crystal clear, I’m not a neurologist or a chiropractic neurology diplomate either with tons of extra education on the brain and nervous system specifically. Many of these terms go above MOST of our heads and MOST of the heads in the medical field as well. That is just a matter of fact. But that doesn’t mean we can’t read, comprehend, and relay the overall pertinent information, which is what we are doing here.

Basically, “What’s the big idea?” That’s what I’m trying to bring to you here without making your eyes glaze over and making you fall into a deep state of hibernation.

Now, with all of that being said, there is some potentially fascinating research coming out of New Zealand we’re going to be talking about here having to do with the dact that chiropractic may work on the brain itself. We are going to talk about two papers that have been done by roughly the same group at the Centre for Chiropractic Research at the New Zealand College of Chiropractic in Auckland New Zealand. Just the name “Auckland” makes me want to go visit. I hear New Zealand is fantastic and the Lord Of The Rings was filmed there so you know it’s stunning. If an epic is filmed in your country, then you know it must be truly epic.

Here is a bit of a disclaimer to start off with. I have seen some dispute from other evidence-based chiropractors online of a different study from Dr. Haavick so I want you to understand that this sort of research cannot be accepted as the gospel. Not just yet anyway. I’d say it’s promising to an extent but there needs to be A LOT more exploration here before we hold it up as the gospel truth. Today’s podcast is more of a, “Hey, look what they’re studying, look what their findings are, and look what the potential for this sort of study could be.” rather than drawing any firm conclusions at this time.

The first study is titled, “Impact of Spinal Manipulation on Cortical Drive to Upper and lower Limb Muscles,” and was published in the journal ‘Brain Sciences’ in December of 2016(1).

Why They Did It

The researcher wanted to find out whether chiropractic care changes motor control. Motor control is basically the messages your brain sends your body in order make it move. Bending your arm, writing on a piece of paper, kicking your leg, or walking are examples of motor control. They assessed whether chiropractic care affected motor control for the arms as well as the legs and tried to find out if the changes may partly happen in the cortical part of the brain, which   is the part that issues motor commands. Although the researchers couldn’t completely rule out the idea that chiropractic adjustments can help motor function at the actual spinal level manipulated, the theory was that some of the changes must happen in the brain itself.  Basically, do chiropractors change how the brain controls muscles(2)? 

How They Did It

  • They conducted two experiments to test their theory. One for the arm and one for the leg.
  • In the first, transcranial magnetic stimulation input-output curves for an upper limb muscle known as the abductor pollicis brevis were recorded.
  • They also recorded F-waves before and after spinal manipulation or the control intervention for the control group on the same subjects on two different days.
  • The researchers did the same in a separate experiment for the lower limb using the tibialis anterior muscle.

What They Found

Before getting into what they found, let’s define the term motor evoked potential.”  According to Medscape, the definition is, “Single- or repetitive-pulse stimulation of the brain causes the spinal cord and peripheral muscles to produce neuroelectrical signals known as motor evoked potentia ls. Clinical uses of motor evoked potential include as a tool for the diagnosis and evaluation of multiple sclerosis and as a prognostic indicator for stroke motor recovery(3).”

With that knowledge the following was noted:

  • Spinal manipulation caused an increase in maximum motor evoked potential in both muscles tested.

Wrap It Up

In a quote from the research abstract, the authors conclude, “Spinal manipulation may therefore be indicated for the patients who have lost tonus of their muscle and or are recovering from muscle degrading dysfunctions such as stroke or orthopaedic operations. These results may also be of interest to sports performers. We suggest these findings should be followed up in the relevant populations.”

In another quote from the lead author, she said, “This research has big implications,says an enthusiastic Heidi Haavik. “It is possible that patients who have lost muscle tonus and/or are recovering from muscle degrading dysfunctions such as stroke or orthopaedic operations could also benefit from chiropractic care. These findings are also very relevant to sports performers (although this too must also be followed up with more research), because it indicates that chiropractic care may help their brains to more efficiently produce greater outputs. So all in all a very exciting study!”

Guess what? They took their own advice in their conclusion and followed up this paper with another similar paper focused more specifically on athletic performance. Here’s the last paper we will discuss called, “The Effects of a Single Session of Spinal Manipulation on Strength and Cortical Drive in Athletes” published in the European Journal of Applied Physiology in January of 2018. Brand new information(5).

Why The Did It

Of course, they did it because they suggested the need for the paper in the conclusion of the previous study but more specifically, they did it because they wanted to test if a single chiropractic adjustment could change things in the muscles of the lower leg for an elite Taekwondo athlete.

How They Did It

  • The muscle measured was the soleus muscle, which lies just under what is commonly known as the calf muscle or the gastrocnemius.
  • Soleus evoked V-waves, H-reflex and maximum voluntary contraction of the plantar flexors were recorded from 11 elite Taekwondo athletes
  • A randomized controlled crossover design was utilized.
  • Treatments used consisted of either spinal manipulation in the treatment group or passive movement control in the control group.
  • Outcome measurements were noted prior to treatment, immediately after treatment, 30 minutes after treatment, and an hour after treatment.

What They Found

  • Spinal manipulation was responsible for increasing each factor measured when compared to the control group.
  • The differences were considered significant through each time interval.

Wrap It Up

The authors are quoted in the conclusion of the paper as saying, “A single session of spinal manipulation increased muscle strength and corticospinal excitability to ankle plantar flexor muscles in elite Taekwondo athletes. The increased maximum voluntary contraction force lasted for 30 minutes and the corticospinal excitability increase persisted for at least 60 minutes.“

As I said in the beginning, I feel that this sort of research is really just beginning and consider it in its infancy but I also think that the results are enough to demand more exploration into this area of how chiropractic can affect neurology.

There is actually a court case in Texas this very minute. The appeals argument starts on February 28th down in Austin. The Texas Medical Association is attacking Texas Chiropractors’ rights to treat the “neuromusculoskeletal” system. They argue that chiropractors do not (and cannot) treat anything further than the “musculoskeletal”system. Certainly, NOT the “neuromusculoskeletal” system.

Regardless of the opinions held by those in the leadership of the Texas Medical Association and their legal team, both of these papers (and many other by the way), in my opinion, render their arguments ignorant, nit-picky, archaic, and obsolete. It’s not a question of what research is out there. It’s a question of if they can understand it or will let their pride go. My guess is, “No.” They have to prevent Chiropractic from moving into their territory at any and all costs. It is NOT about patient safety. It never has been and it never will be. It’s purely based on power and the threat of losing it.

What’s your opinion. We would love to hear it.

Research and clinical experience shows that, in about 80%-90% of headaches, neck, and back pain, compared to the traditional medical model, patients get good or excellent results with Chiropractic. It’s safe, more cost-effective, decreases chances of surgery, and reduces chances of becoming disabled. We do this conservatively and non-surgically and do it with minimal time requirements and hassle on the part of the patient. And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward, we can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health! And, of course now, we see that chiropractic may work on the brain too!

Please feel free to send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think or what suggestions you may have for us for future episodes. If you love what you hear, be sure to check out www.chiropracticforward.com. As this podcast builds, so will the website as we add more content, educational products, and a little further down the road, webinars, seminars, and speaking dates as they get added.

We cannot wait to connect again with you next week. From Creek Stone here in Amarillo, TX, home of the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward.

Sources:

  1. Haavik H, Niazi IK, Jochumsen M, Sherwin D, Flavel S, Türker KS. Impact of Spinal Manipulation on Cortical Drive to Upper and Lower Limb Muscles. Brain Sci. 2016 Dec 23;7(1).https://chiropracticscience.com/increase-cortical-drive-following-spinal-manipulation/

2) https://spinalresearch.com.au/new-study-reveals-impact-spinal-manipulation-cortical-drive-limb-muscles/

3) https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1139085-overview

4) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322199907_The_Effects_of_a_Single_Session_of_Spinal_Manipulation_on_Strength_and_Cortical_Drive_in_Athletes

5) Christiansen L, et. al. (2018). The Effects of a Single Session of Spinal Manipulation on Strength and Cortical Drive in Athletes. European Journal of Applied Physiology. . 10.1007/s00421-018-3799-x/fulltext.html.

CF 008: With Dr. Craig Benton – Brand New Information Based on Results Chiropractic Proven Effective For Low Back Pain

Today’s episode is all about chronic low back pain and some great, brand new research. By now, as I’ve said in the past, even traditional Chiropractor-hating, torch-wielding, quasi-scholastic chiropractic detractors are admitting that, yes, Chiropractic is indeed helpful for low back pain.

If you love what you hear, be sure to check out www.chiropracticforward.com. As the podcast builds, so too will the website content, educational products, webinars, seminars, and speaking dates as they get added.

For now though, it’s time for bumper music!

We will dive into the research in a few minutes but first, I have to introduce my guest this week. His name is Dr. Craig Benton. Dr. Benton is the owner/operator of Benton Chiropractic down in Lampassas, Texas but that’s not where the intro stops. Dr. Benton is the chair of Scientific Affairs for the Texas Chiropractic Association. He is where I have found a healthy percentage of the material that I have covered over the years for my blog, my YouTube videos, and now for the Chiropractic Forward podcast. Dr. Benton has been unknowingly instrumental in keeping me in business and making my life easier.

Welcome to the show Dr. Benton, how is life in Lampassas this week? My first question today is, have you been playing any guitar lately?

Dr. Benton and I are both in active practice. In fact, there’s a chance we may both have a patient show up at any time. That’s how actively we are practicing. I think that’s incredibly important to note because, so many times, you hear podcasts and attend seminars where the guys and gals speaking don’t really know a thing about actively practicing for 20 plus years. I’ve always felt that experience matters. Even when I was young and green. I was well-aware that I didn’t know it all and I’m even more aware of that today than ever.

So Dr. Benton, I’m looking forward to hearing your opinions and insight today.

Since the podcast today is about chronic pain, I think we should begin with a definition of what Chronic really is. When we define “chronic” in the context of neuromusculoskeletal complaints, we define it as being a complaint that is greater than 12 weeks in duration. Right at 3 months. Some patients will come into the office having had a condition for 15-20 years. I tell them that they are more than a little stubborn to have put up with something for so long.

It is common sense that a condition that is chronic will be more difficult to treat. Also, most chronic conditions can be traced back to a biomechanical, neuromusculoskeletal origin. One of my favorite quotes is from Dr. Lee Green, Professor of Family Medicine at the University of Michigan. He said, “Neck pain is a mechanical problem, and it makes sense that mechanical treatment works better than a chemical one.” Although Dr. Green is referring to neck pain in this instance, “low back pain” can easily be substituted. What he says could not make more sense. It’s an easy and very concise way to understand why Chiropractic, manipulation, mobilization is so incredibly effective above and beyond anything else for this sort or issue, including medication.

Do you have a quote or quotes that you love sharing that make sense to you and that help you boil down what it is we chiropractors are doing to help our patients?

I have overhead medical doctors (more than once) talking about having back pain and just injecting themselves with something to try to get over it. If they asked me, I’d tell them that they’re just covering up an underlying trigger or cause and ignoring it is to their detriment.

A good metaphor I came across for using medication for neuromusculoskeletal complaints is that it’s like unplugging a smoke alarm because you don’t like the noise. But, the fire is still slowly growing. What have they done to treat anything in a responsible and effective way? Nothing at all. We tend to live in a society that wants a pill for this and a potion for that so they can get over it and get on with life. But it doesn’t work that way.

Dr. Benton, has this been your experience as well?

Dr. Benton, don’t you treat soldiers through the VA program? Can you tell us all a little bit about that?

Let’s go over some low back pain statistics just we can try to stress the importance of what we’re talking about here. Dr. Benton, please feel free to jump in with anything you’d like to add:

  • Low back pain is the single leading cause of disability worldwide.
  • 8 out of every ten people will experience back pain. I will admit that I have never met anyone in 45 years of life on this Earth that fit’s into the 20% that apparently never suffers from any low back pain. Dr. Benton….have you ever met anyone that has never had back pain? Is it just me?
  • Back pain is the second most common reason for visits to the doctor’s office right behind upper-respiratory infections.
  • With such gains and leaps in the medical industry as far as treatment goes, low back pain is stubbornly on the rise.
  • More than half of Americans who experience low back pain spend the majority of the work day sitting. 54% to be exact. It’s good to be a chiropractor I guess. Our patients keep us up and moving most of the day.
  • Dr. Benton, did you know that….now…an equal number of patients seek help with a chiropractor first as seek help with a medical practitioner first for back pain? That’s new information to me that I found interesting.
  • Back pain in general costs $100 billion dollars every year when you factor in lost wages, productivity as well as legal and insurance overheads.

Now that we all know more about low back pain, let’s go through some things that may put you at greater risk of suffering from the condition. Dr. Benton, with your experience on the research, stop me if you have anything to add to any of these:

  • Age: as the spine and supporting structures begin to age and decline, the rate of low back pain will understandably increase.
  • Fitness Level: physically active people do not suffer low back pain to at the rate inactive people suffer. A healthy exercise and core building protocol can help reduce symptoms or instances of low back pain.
  • Weight Gain: Being overweight or obese and gaining weight quickly places increased strain on the low back.
  • Pregnancy: This one goes without saying. Pelvic changes and weight gain both contribute.
  • Genetics: Some forms of arthritis or other systemic conditions are genetic in nature
  • Work: Jobs that include heavy labor and or twisting or expose people to vibration consistently can be problematic. Jobs that require long periods of sitting in a chair can be equally problematic.
  • Mental health factors: Many people are able to deal with chronic pain but anxiety and depression are conditions that can cause a person to focus on the pain which tends to raise the perceived severity and significance for the person suffering from the condition. Dr. Benton, have you come across any patients that fit this description in your practice?
  • Improper backpack use: Kids suffer back pain needlessly since they are not traditionally in an age range we would consider to be a risk factor. However, backpacks used improperly are a common culprit. A backpack should never be more than 15%-20% of a child’s weight and should be carried on both shoulders with the bottom being at or about waste level.

What does the research say?

As I’m sure Dr. Benton will agree…..the research says a lot, to be honest. In fact, I’d say that there’s more research for the effectiveness of manipulation/mobilization in low back pain than for any other conditions chiropractors commonly treat. Am I out of bounds here Dr. Benton?

The research shows Chiropractic beating general practitioners in effectiveness as well as cost. The research shows Chiropractic beating common medications prescribed for low back pain. The research shows Chiropractic beating physical therapy and exercise alone. The research shows Chiropractic beating epidural spinal injections for low back pain. And the two of us can point you to randomized controlled trials proving it. Basically, the research is clear.

In January of 2018, a brand new research paper dealing with manipulation and mobilization was published in Spine Journal by Ian Coulter, PhD et. al. titled “Manipulation and mobilization for treating chronic low back pain: a systematic review” and funded by the National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health.

Now, to be clear, Spine Journal sounds a little bit like it may be a Chiropractic publication for those of you that don’t commonly read research abstracts…… but it is not.

Dr. Benton, can you describe Spine Journal for us?

Here’s why the authors took this project on.

The authors of the paper stated that there remained questions about manipulation and mobilization efficacy, the proper dosing of the techniques, how safe they are, as well as how they compare to other treatment protocols commonly used for chronic low back pain.

I have to say that I had no remaining questions regarding really ANY of those topics but it seems that these authors did.

Dr. Benton, again, please feel free to jump in anywhere you’d like as we go through the hows, why’s and the what’s here.

Here’s How They Did It

  • This paper was a systematic review and meta-analysis.
  • They searched databases for relevant studies from January 2000-March 2017
  • They chose randomized controlled trials that compared manipulation or mobilization to sham treatment, no treatment, other therapies, and multimodal therapeutic approaches.
  • They assessed the risk of bias using the Scottish Intercollegiate Guidelines Network.
  • Grading of Recommendations, Assessment, Development, and Evaluation (GRADE) was applied to determine the confidence in effect estimates.
  • 51 trials were included

What They Found

  • Within 7 of those trials on manipulation and/or mobilization there was reduction of disability when compared to other forms of therapy.
  • Further analyses showed that manipulation specifically was responsible for significant reduction in pain and disability when put up against therapies such as exercise and physical therapy.
  • Mobilization was also was significantly more effective when compared to exercise regimens for pain reduction but not for disability.

Wrap It Up

In the conclusion of the paper abstract, the authors say, “There is moderate-quality evidence that manipulation and mobilization are likely to reduce pain and improve function for patients with chronic low back pain; manipulation appears to produce a larger effect than mobilization. Both therapies appear safe.”

As I’ve said many times, “a lot of research in your favor becomes fact.” Chiropractic has A LOT of research in its favor.

Dr. Benton, would you like to add any final thoughts?

I’d like to thank Dr. Benton for taking the time to be with us today. He really is one of the guys out here in the real world trying his best to help change things for Chiropractors in Texas and in the world.

I want to finish off by saying that when Chiropractic is at its best, you cannot beat the risk vs reward ratio. Plain and simple.

Just another reason to call a chiropractor TODAY!

Research and clinical experience shows that, in about 80%-90% of headaches, neck, and back pain, compared to the traditional medical model, patients get good or excellent results with Chiropractic. It’s safe, more cost-effective, decreases chances of surgery, and reduces chances of becoming disabled. We do this conservatively and non-surgically and do it with minimal time requirements and hassle on the part of the patient. And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward, we can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health!

Please feel free to send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think or what suggestions you may have for us for future episodes. Please remember, we need your help to spread the word and grow this podcast. If you would help us out by sharing our podcast information, our website, and social media entities, we would greatly appreciate your help.

We cannot wait to connect again with you next week. From Creek Stone here in Amarillo, TX, home of the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward.

Research Citation:

Coulter I, et. al. “Manipulation and mobilization for treating chronic low back pain: a systematic review and meta-analysis” The Spine Journal, Volume 0 , Issue 0 ,

https://www.thespinejournalonline.com/article/S1529-9430(18)30016-0/fulltext

CF 001: The Chiropractic Forward Podcast Introduction – Evidence-Based,

Hey world. Welcome to our very first episode of Chiropractic Forward Podcast! It’s going to be better than stepping on Legos barefooted. Here in episode number one, we’re going to speak a little bit about what Chiro Forward means to me, why a podcast dealing with this is necessary, and why right now is the best time for the information we will be sharing here.

My very first Chiropractic Forward Podcast. Will Eventually have a dedicated website with material available but for now, you’re stuck with the newbie. But it’s good to be on the ground floor. It’s fun to watch things run their course and see where they go.

Stats On Veterans, Pain, And Medication Are Shocking And Require Urgent Action

going to revolve around a new article that came out on Observer this week and graciously shared via one of my favorite colleagues with Benton Chiropractic in Lampasas, TX, Dr. Craig Benton. The article was written by Ken Blaker, published on November 16, 2017, and called Bandaging Veterans’ Pain With Opioids Is Proving Deadly, Must Stop.”

As a portal-of-entry practitioner, I believe that ANY chiropractor will quickly agree that the veterans we see are hurt. And I do not mean just a little hurt. I have a couple of patients that have fallen out of helicopters for example. That’s the kind of hurt I am referring to. These men and women have not only risked their lives, they (in many cases) have ruined their lives.

In the article, Mr. Blaker mentions an “overburdened VA health System.” I cannot tell you how many times I have mentioned getting x-rays at the VA. Or how many times I have said something similar to, “Have you seen your VA doctor about this yet?” These types of comments and questions are ALWAYS met with an eye roll and a dismissive, “Pffft.” They don’t like going to the VA because they don’t like waiting forever to be seen and they don’t normally like the treatment they receive when they finally DO get seen by the doctor.

Combine the increased trauma and stress they put on their body with sometimes very traumatic experiences related to combat and service, and you have a volatile combination. It is easy to see why our veterans are at an increased risk of abusing (and overdosing on) opioids. Now that the United States is in an opioid epidemic, we had ALL better start paying close attention to this group of people. Especially considering the fact that this article is quoted as saying, “Veterans succumb to opioid overdose-related deaths at twice the rate of the general population.” WOW!

Mr. Blaker has a comment in this article that I will likely carry with me for the rest of my career. The quote is, “Patients are entitled to the best treatments that do the least harm.” How lovely is that? It’s perfect when we are discussing weighing the risk vs. reward ratios for chiropractic protocols and medical protocols in regards to uncomplicated neuromusculoskeletal complaints.

As the article goes on to discuss, there is a wave in the medical community as a result of the opioid epidemic. The wave is more and more in favor of not only making it harder to get hold of opioids, but also identifying alternative, non-pharmacological treatments for pain.

The current President of Parker College in Dallas and former chiropractor to the US Capitol in Washington, D.C. was quoted in the article as saying, “Non-pharmaceutical approaches to pain should always precede pharmaceutical interventions. Chiropractic, acupuncture, physiotherapy, exercise and psychosocial counseling are all preferable starting points in treating pain.”

He is standing on tall shoulders when he makes this statement. As I have discussed recently on my blog, The American College of Physicians and the American Medical Association have BOTH recently published papers and articles supporting the use of Chiropractic, Massage, and Acupuncture FIRST for chronic and low back pain before turning to any anti-inflammatories such as Ipuprofen, Tylenol, or Aspirin. One more time just for good measure: two of the biggest entities in the American medical profession now recommend seeking help from a chiropractor, massage therapist, and/or acupuncturist before taking any pills of any kind.

A collegue of mine and former President of the Texas Chiropractic Association, Dr. Tyce Hergert in Southlake, TX worked back and forth for quite some time to attempt to formulate a very concise and repeatable script for how we could accurately describe what it is we do. Here’s what we came up with.

Research and clinical experience shows that, in about 80%-90% of headaches, neck, and back pain, in comparison to the traditional medical model, patients get good or excellent results with Chiropractic. Chiropractic care is safe, more cost-effective, it decreases your chances of having surgery, and it reduces your chances of becoming disabled. We do this conservatively and non-surgically. In addition, we can do it with minimal time requirements and minimal hassle on the part of the patient. And, if the patient develops a preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, we can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of oru patients’ health!

If you are a Chiropractor, feel free to use it. In fact, I HOPE you’ll use it! If you are a heatlhcare practioner of a different discipline, I hope it helps you further understand what we are doing and bringing to the table. If you are a patient or potential chiropractic patient, I hope it encourages you to keep on your path and spread the word about the Chiropractic Forward Podcast.

That’s it for episode one. Thank for listening to me. The first one is always the challenge and they say the rest is all downhill. I’m looking forward to where this can take us and take the profession.

I’d like to invite you, until the separate website is built and running, to visit my blog at www.amarillochiropractor.com/blog  There are LOTS of research-based blogs, articles, and papers we will be discussing over time. Don’t get in a hurry though….I don’t want you to get TOO far ahead of me. If you have ideas for future shows or have come across some great research that you think we should talk about, shoot us the information at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com We will also have future segments highlighting some of the email we get so send us emails and let us know what you think. As always, join us for more information at our home on the web, https://www.chiropracticforward.com

I’m Dr. Jeff Williams from the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, thanks again,

Upward, Onward, and Forward.