CF 103: Chiropractic & The Brain, Forward Head Posture Hurts, & Smoking Hurts Worse
Today we’re going to talk about spinal manipulation’s effect on the brain, forward head posture and neck pain, and we’ll talk about how smoking is related to pain throughout the body.
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You have collapsed into Episode #103
Now if you missed last week’s episode on headaches, contraindications to adjusting, and more info on maintenance care, then make sure you don’t miss that info. Go listen when you get done with this one.
Just a quick re-cap, some of the more recent very popular episodes have been when we had Dr. James Lehman on ths show for episodes 96 and 97. Those were huge for listeners.
Then, right after those, we had a couple of shows on Marketing Evidence Based practices. Those were big shows for us too.
Our all time biggest episodes though have been #13, 14, and 15. They were early in our existence. They’re called Debunked: The Odd Myth That Chiropractors Cause Stroke. And then there was episode 80 with Dr. Anthony Nicholson on Decoding Chronic Pain. That was amazing. It was a mini-course on chronic pain and I promise, it’s one you don’t want to miss.
Anyway, for those that are newer to our podcast, you’ll have to check those out and see what you think.
On the personal end of things, Dad is still in a struggle for independence. If you’ve been around stroke victims in the early weeks, it’s tough stuff. I don’t wish it on a single soul. Well, there’s this one attorney I used to know. Lol.
Kidding. I Kid….
When it’s my time, man….I just want it to go lights out. BAM. Seeya! It’s been nice but I gotta go hang with Jesus and my family I haven’t seen in a while. Buh bye.
We don’t get to choose but I sure hope that’s the way it goes. I never want to be a burden on anyone just so I can keep breathing. I want to check out and say adios amigos, hasta luego.
As far as practice goes, all days are not created equally are they? This was one of those days. Where to even start really?
I had to get after staff members for not doing rehab long enough. I don’t like repeating myself 100 times but I also don’t like getting after the staff members. I hate it. But it has to be done from time to time.
Then a PT told one my new patients not to go to the chiropractor until after he is done working with them because the patient is ‘gummy’ and an adjustment wouldn’t stick. Now, what the hell does that mean exactly? We don’t take bones from one place and put them into another. Adjustments don’t need to stick. They need to create movement. And alignment isn’t a real thing. Son of a mother, people.
I’ve never had a PT directing my patient’s treatment in my office before so that was a fun surprise.
Then a re-exam patient shows up 5 mintues before lunch. Talk about wanting to choke a patient. In a loving way of course because I love my patients but choke indeed.
Then an attorney on a case on a patient that I’ve seen just three freaking times calls the office. He wants to get me and the insurance adjustor on the phone at the same time. He wants to know what my bill is going to be, how many times I’m going to see the patient, etc… Yeah no. Not happening.
You have a question? Email me and tag the insurance adjustor. Want a specific answer, yeah…no. Everyone is different, every injury is different, and everyone heals at a different rate. I can give you a very rough estimate at best. Suck it Mr. Attorney, aka Mr. Waste My Freaking Time.
Then I have a new car wreck patient that doesn’t want me to see his previous radiology reports because they told him nothing was wrong and he doesn’t want me making up my mind about him based on radiology reports. Are you serious? You can’t make this crap up y’all.
Then, there’s some inner office fussing going on. It’s not a big deal but just un-needed on top of the rest of it while I’m trying to switch CPAs, balance and close out the month of November, and just keep my crap together long enough to go out to the rehab hospital to see my Dad.
Lol. Wow, what a brain dump I just laid on you all. I apologize but again, I share personal aspects of what’s going on day to day because I know many of you will 100% identify and if you don’t, you can probably learn from my experiences. If you don’t learn how to handle them, then maybe you can learn how to NOT handle them. Lol.
I’m OK with that too.
I can’t remember if I shared on the last episode but did you know the new slang for 100% is hundo p? It’s true. So, I hundo p guarantee that tomorrow will be a better day because I played whack a mole all day today and those little bastards are going to have headaches and will lay a bit lower tomorrow.
At least I hundo p hope so.
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Our first item is titled “Smoking Is Associated with Pain in All Body Regions, with Greatest Influence on Spinal Pain”, published in Pain Medicine Journal in October of 2019, and authored by Smuck, Scheider, and Ehsanian, et. al(Smuck M 2019).
Why They Did It
The authors wanted to examine the interrleationship between smoking and pain the US
How They Did It
It was a cross-sectional population-based study
It was done nation-wide
They collected related demographicsin 2,307 subjects from 2003-2004
What They Found
Smoking is most strongly associated with spine pain, followed by headaches, then trunk pain, then limb pain.
Wrap It Up
The conclusions is, “Current smoking is associated with pain in every region of the body. This association is strongest for spine and head pain. Given that pain is a strong motivator and that current smoking was associated with pain in all body regions, we recommend that these results be used to further raise public awareness about the potential harms of smoking.”
So we already knew that smoking was related to low back pain and disc issues from research we’ve covered here before. Now we know it goes beyond that. It’s everything everywhere basically.
Honestly, can you think of anything that could actually be good about regularly inhale smoke all day every day? Like….anything at all? Of course not. And you know what’s going to piss some of you off? Other than some touted ideas on stress and pain relief, can you tell me what on Earth could be good about inhaling marijuana smoke regularly into one’s lungs. All day every day. Wake and bake is no better than smoking folks. I promise. When all the research shakes loose, you simply cannot inhale substances regularly and it be OK.
As a side note I just want to throw some personal commentary in here. I had a conversation with a patient this week about another chiropractor here in my town and some of the beliefs and ideas that was laid on them on their visits with them.
You know…..the things that push patients away and makes them come see other chiropractors. Things like don’t vaccinate your kids (regardless of your stance on the matter, don’t be a bully about it to your patients. It’s gross and unprofessional), things like don’t use cell phones because of radiation, things like pushing supplements more than an actual adjustment with exercises, things like we need 70 visits and $4000 from you this year to fix that loss of curve in your neck. Things like pushing the newest thing like CBD, multi-level marketing like supercharged water.
From a patient’s perspective, if you went to your medical doctor and they’re pushing a ton of stuff from out of the blue….stuff beyond normal and customary medication. Things supplements that cost A LOT of money. They’re pushing CBD and selling if from their office, etc etc….
Well, those people look like snake oil salespeople. It’s not a good look, it’s off-putting, and we should hold ourselves to a higher standard. You can make plenty of money in this profession without selling your dignity and continually jumping on the hot new bandwagon.
The golden oldies are still the best ROI, folks. Spinal manipulative therapy, exercise/rehab, physiotherapy, massage and manual therapy, acupuncture, and honest and high ethics.
That’s your winning formula, y’all. Not CBD, special magical water, oils, and stuff like that.
It’s just not.
I swear I feel like I’m being controversial today but I’m not trying to be. I’m just speaking my mind and in the US at least these days, that is not a popular thing to do. We are at the point where 50% of the country hates the other 50% and anything you say, even when backed with facts, is taken as offesive material by half the country.
Random thought just now. If kid slang for 100% is hundo p, for 50%, is it fitty p? Just a question I have. That’s all.
Now, item 2. This one is called “The Relationship Between Forward Head Posture and Neck Pain: a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis” published in Current Reviews in Musculoskeletal Medicine in November of 2019 and authored by Mahmoud, Hassan, Abdelimajeed, Moustafa, and Silva, et. al(Mahmoud N 2019).
November 2019 – hot stuff. fog your glasses up steaming plate.
And can I just say Oh how I wish my last name was Moustafa? Powerful – elegant – a little bit of hell yeah there.
Why They Did It
Despite claims that FHP may be related to neck pain, this relation seems to be controversial. Thus, our purpose is to determine whether FHP differs between asymptomatic subjects and those with neck pain and to investigate if there is a relationship between head posture and neck pain.
How They Did It
15 cross-sectional studies were eligible for inclusion
It was a systematic review and meta-analysis – so basically high-level information and research
What They Found
The conclusion of the project was “This systematic review found that age played an important role as a confounding factor in the relation between FHP and neck pain. Also, the results showed that adults with neck pain show increased FHP when compared to asymptomatic adults and that FHP is significantly correlated with neck pain measures in adults and older adults. No association was found between FHP and most of neck pain measures in adolescents.”
Now, you curve people don’t start getting our of hand. Can’t we see a world where a person does not have Forward HEad Posture but still has a loss of a curve. However, that loss of curve doesn’t cause a lot of issues? Of course we can. Because we have recent research that shows loss of a curve isn’t that big of a damn deal long-term.
This paper is on forward head posture specifically and it doesn’t take a research paper to envision sitting with consistent bad posture and developing upper cross syndrome is going to set a person up for some chronic pain issues. I can easily make that leap with you. And with these authors. Count me in.
This one is called “The effect of spinal manipulation on brain neurometabolites in chronic nonspecific low back pain patients: a randomized clinical trial” it was published in Irish Journal of Medical Science in November of 2019 and authored by Didehdar, Kamali, Yoosefinejad, Lotfi, et. al(Didehdar d 2019).
November 2019 – Pow- firecracker hot right here. Watch your fingers
Why They Did It
In patients with chronic nonspecific low back pain (NCLBP), brain function changes due to the neuroplastic changes in different regions. They wanted to evaluate the brain metabolite changes after spinal manipulation, using proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy
How They Did It
- 25 patients enrolled
- They were randomly assigned to lumbopelvic mainpulation or sham manipulation
- They were evaluated befre the study begain and at 5 weeks after treatment.
- The Numerical Rating Scale and the Oswestry Disability Index and the H-MRS outcome assessments were used to quantify the results
What They Found
After treatment, pain and functional disability were significantly reduced in the treatment group vs. the sham group.
This paper gets heavy into the neurology so, in order to keep you on board here, we’ll straight to the conclusion.
Wrap It Up
The authors concluded, “In the patient with low back pain, spinal manipulation affects the central nervous system and changes the brain metabolites. Consequently, pain and functional disability are reduced.”
We did an episode on what an adjustment does way back on episode #56. That was also the episode where I talked about a popular group of millennial chiropractors that pour on the theatrics and sales talk and teach other impressionable chiropractors to do the same.
And then claimed to make degenerative arthritic spurs disappear after adjusting 3 or 4 times a day for like 2 or 3 weeks. I can’t recall exactly now but go back and listen to episode 56. It was a fun brain dump and is probably something you’ll enjoy if I’m guessing. I’m putting the link right here at this point in the show notes at chiropracticforward.com so go give it a looksee.
How do you describe a manipulation? If you were on an airplane sitting next to a neurosurgeon and he asked you exactly how manipulation works and affects the body and pain, what would you tell him? Have you thought about it?
The folks at ChiroUp have thought about it and probably because they’re DACOs, the DACO program also has an interesting description to offer.
Dr. Brandon Steele with ChiroUp offered a good explanation for cavitation back in October on their blog. I’ll leave the link for you in the show notes.
He described the need for better communication with the patients regarding cavitation and whether something “goes” or pops. Too many times, patients equate a successful treatment with cavitation. You know what we’re saying here.
To quote Dr. Steele’s blog, he says, “Joint manipulation improves range of motion across individual and multiple vertebral segments. A recent paper by Anderstt et al. (2018) confirmed that cervical manipulation results in facet gaping. This force also improves regional motion across multiple spinal levels during and post-manipulation.
“This study is the first to measure facet gapping during cervical manipulation on live humans. The results demonstrate that target and adjacent motion segments undergo facet joint gapping during manipulation and that intervertebral range of motion is increased in all three planes of motion after manipulation. The results suggest that clinical and functional improvement after manipulation may occur as a result of small increases in intervertebral ROM across multiple motion segments.”
Evidence-based chiropractors can bridge the patient education knowledge gap by incorporating current research into simple explanations.”
The DACO program I’ve been discussing put it all into an excellent description. Check this out and let me know what you think about it.
“Chiropractic adjustments exert their effects upon the nervous system in a variety of ways.
In recent years the neuroscience community has taken great strides in uncovering the mechanisms at play. These include analgesic responses at the dorsal horn level, as well as activation of the descending inhibitory pathways from brainstem regions such as the periaqueductal gray.
There is also a compelling body of research that suggests profound changes in sensorimotor integration within the cortex.
It appears that manipulation relies upon signaling properties of the muscle spindles that lie embedded in the paraspinal tissues. As the spindle registers rapid lengthening of the muscle it transduces this into a large proprioceptive barrage.
The unique nature of a manipulation seems to alter the responsiveness of second-order neurons in the dorsal horn and make them less sensitive to incoming nociceptive signals from injured tissues.”
Good stuff. The more you know, the better you are. The better you are, the more you stand out and the busier you are.
The right kind of busy. Not busy because you scared people into treating with you. Not busy because you made a big deal out of something insignificant.
Busy because you’re freaking smart as hell, make good reasonable recommendations. Busy because you took the time to get the extra education to be able to help your patients beyond what your local competitors can do. Busy because you’re honest and you know that treatment should have a start and it should have a finish.
Busy because you’re an evidence-informed, evidence-based chiropractor and high level research backs everything you say and everything you do.
There are few things more satisfying than saying, “Would you like for me to send you the research paper on that?”
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I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment instead of chemical treatments like pills and shots.
When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us that patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain just to name just a few.
It’s safe and cost-effective. It can decrease surgeries & disability and we normally do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient.
And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, we can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health of the patient!
Patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment offering the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints….
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Didehdar d, K. F., Yoosefinejad AK, Lotfi M, (2019). “The effect of spinal manipulation on brain neurometabolites in chronic nonspecific low back pain patients: a randomized clinical trial.” Ir J Med Sci.
Mahmoud N, H. K., Abdelmajeed S, Moustafa I, Silva A, (2019). “The Relationship Between Forward Head Posture and Neck Pain: a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.” Curr Rev Musculoskelet Med: 1-16.
Smuck M, S. B., Ehsanian R, Martin E, Kao MJ, (2019). “Smoking Is Associated with Pain in All Body Regions, with Greatest Influence on Spinal Pain.” Pain Med.