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Discs In Low Back Pain & Unnecessary Surgeries Via COVID

CF 292: Discs In Low Back Pain & Unnecessary Surgeries Via COVID

Today we’re going to talk about Discs In Low Back Pain & Unnecessary Surgeries Via COVID

 

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You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #292

Now if you missed last week’s episode, we talked about Racial and Ethnic Disparities In Chronic Low Back Pain & Pregnancy And Cannabis Use . Make sure you don’t miss that info. Keep up with the class.

On the personal end of things…..

Isn’t it funny how things work sometimes? I had something odd happened recently here in the clinic. We found out that our acupuncturist was moving to a different chiropractor’s office. She’s been with us for about eight years. What she’s credentialed through me to see veterans through our VA system.

So the VA randomly called us one day inquiring on her moving to another office and when that is happening, etc. Well, it was news to us. So we reached out to the acupuncturist and she admitted that she had plans to move but had not shared them with us yet. Although Amarillo Texas is about 225,000 people, there are only 3 acupuncturists in the entire area. It’s just not that popular here.

Although, it is definitely gaining in popularity. So the prospects of us being able to bring on another acupuncturist quickly are very slim. However, we went ahead and reached out to the one we really wanted to work with us. I have a good relationship with her, but things have just not worked out to where we could’ve actually worked together before. It turns out that she was tired of her current situation and was interested in making a move.

So she came in for an interview, we talked, and she was on board. We started the credentialing process with the VA that very day, so, while it takes 90 days to get credentialed, at this point, we are already almost a month into the process. That should significantly shorten the waiting period for our veterans to switch to a new acupuncturist and soften the landing.

Oh, in the meantime, if our previous acupuncturist, had any plans of stealing our patients, and taking them to a new place, that is going to be hard for her to accomplish. She hast to get completely re-credentialed, and I promise you were ahead of her on getting that done. In addition, the veterans have to get authorization to see her and she hast to get credentialed before they can even start the process of getting authorized through her. Whereas here in my clinic the machine is already built. The gears are already oiled and greased, and we are at fine-tune the machine. I think there’s no doubt we are going to come out ahead on this transition.

One thing we all know is that the one constant in life is that things are always changing.

Many of us are going through changes with staff. I have 3 CA’s and that third spot. It’s just a constant turnover. I have another one that will start in two weeks. The last one lasted for about two weeks. The one before her lasted about three months. It’s been miserable but when we find the right one I think it will have been worth it anyway, that’s what’s on my mind this morning. Getting acupuncture back up and running and marketed, and getting another new staff member up and going.

It’s a constant churn and, as they say in the military, just embrace the suck and keep trucking. It all pays for your life and for the life of your family members. Might as well enjoy all of it that you can and embrace the parts you feel suck your soul and keep that part in the proper context.

Item #1

 

The first on today is called “Intervertebral disc degeneration and how it leads to low back pain” by Ashish D Diwan, James Melrose and published in Pub Med on Nov14 2022. Dayum. That’s hot.

Why They Did It

  • The purpose of this review was to evaluate data generated by animal models of intervertebral disc (IVD) degeneration published in the last decade.
  • The review aimed to highlight the valuable contributions of these animal models in identifying molecular events associated with pain generation.
  • IVD degeneration is a complex process contributing to spinal pain, and understanding the underlying mechanisms is crucial for developing effective therapeutic strategies to alleviate pain, promote disc repair and regeneration, and prevent associated neuropathic and nociceptive pain.

How They Did It

 

  • The researchers conducted a review of existing studies that employed animal models of IVD degeneration.
  • They likely searched relevant databases, academic journals, and publications from the past decade to gather a comprehensive dataset.

  • The selected studies would have used various animal models and experimental methods to induce IVD degeneration.

  • These animal models mimic certain aspects of human IVD degeneration, allowing researchers to study the molecular events and mechanisms involved in pain generation.

What They Found

  • Through their review, the researchers observed that in degenerated IVDs, there is nerve ingrowth and an increased number of nociceptors (pain-sensing neurons) and mechanoreceptors (sensors of mechanical stimuli).
  • The biomechanically incompetent and abnormally loaded degenerated IVDs experience increased mechanical stimulation, leading to heightened low back pain.
  • This finding helps establish a link between IVD degeneration and pain generation, shedding light on the complexity of the process.

  • The review also highlighted the potential of a specific factor called “growth and differentiation factor 6” in addressing IVD degeneration. Studies using this factor in IVD puncture and multi-level IVD degeneration models, along with a rat xenograft radiculopathy pain model, demonstrated its ability to prevent further deterioration in degenerate IVDs. The factor exhibited regenerative properties that promoted the recovery of normal IVD architectural functional organization and inhibited the generation of inflammatory mediators, which contribute to disc degeneration and low back pain.

Wrap It Up

 

  • The review of animal models of IVD degeneration provided valuable insights into the molecular events underlying pain generation in degenerate IVDs. It emphasized the importance of understanding the complex multifactorial process of IVD degeneration to identify potential therapeutic targets for pain relief and disc repair.

 

  • One promising candidate identified through the review was “growth and differentiation factor 6,” which showed considerable potential in preventing further deterioration of degenerate IVDs, promoting regeneration, and inhibiting the generation of inflammatory mediators.

 

  • The findings from these animal models suggest the need for human clinical trials with this compound to assess its efficacy in treating IVD degeneration and preventing low back pain generation in humans. Overall, this review underscores the significance of animal models in advancing our understanding of IVD degeneration and pain mechanisms, ultimately leading to improved treatment strategies for patients suffering from low back pain.

 

Before getting to the next one,

 

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Item #2

Our last one this week is called, “100,000 older Americans got unnecessary surgeries during dangerous first year of COVID-19” by Aaron Toleos and published in Lown Institute on May 17, 2022. Hot potato!

Why They Did It

The Lown Institute conducted this analysis to shed light on the issue of overuse of medical procedures in American healthcare, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic. The aim was to bring attention to the fact that even during a public health crisis, unnecessary procedures were still being performed on vulnerable patients, potentially exposing them to harm and wasting healthcare resources.

How They Did It

The analysis was based on Medicare claims data from January to December 2020. The Lown Institute used the 100% Medicare claims database to evaluate the volume of overuse for eight common low-value procedures. The specific procedures and criteria for overuse were determined based on the institute’s previously published research into the measurement of low-value care at hospitals.

 

 

What They Found

  • The Lown Institute found that a total of 106,474 unnecessary procedures were identified during the analyzed period. The most overused procedure by volume was coronary stents, with 45,176 procedures performed. Other procedures with high rates of overuse included vertebroplasty for osteoporosis, hysterectomy for benign disease, and spinal fusion for back pain.

  • The analysis also revealed that approximately one in five of these low-value procedures met the criteria for overuse across the country. Even some of the nation’s most well-regarded hospitals had rates of overuse above the national average. For example, all of the top 20 hospitals ranked by U.S. News had rates of coronary stent overuse above the national average, with four of them having rates at least double that.

 

Wrap It Up

The analysis conducted by the Lown Institute highlights the persistence of overuse of medical procedures in U.S. hospitals, even during a major public health crisis like the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite previous knowledge that certain procedures, such as coronary stents for stable coronary disease, are of limited clinical benefit, they continue to be performed at high rates. This raises concerns about patient safety, healthcare costs, and the need to address the issue of overuse in the American healthcare system. The findings call for greater attention to evidence-based practices and the promotion of appropriate and necessary medical interventions to ensure better patient outcomes and more efficient use of healthcare resources.

Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week.

 

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you cant beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few.

It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient.

And, if the patient treats preventatively after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health!

 

Key Point:

At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints….

Thats Chiropractic!

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MRI’s and Clinic Presentation & Surgery vs. Conservative Care For Discs

CF 198: MRI’s and Clinic Presentation & Surgery vs. Conservative Care For Discs Today we’re going to talk about surgery vs. conservative treatment for discs and we’ll talk about MRI findings and clinical pain.  But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music    

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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun, profitable, and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around.  We’re the fun kind of research. Not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. We’re research talk over a couple of beers. I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.   If you haven’t yet I have a few things you should do. 
  • Go to Amazon and check our my book called The Remarkable Truth About Chiropractic: A Unique Journey Into The Research. It’s an invaluable resource for your patient education and for you. It can save you time in putting talks together or just staying current on research. It’s categorized into sections so that the information is easy to find and it’s written in a way that is easy to understand for practitioner as well as patient. You have to check it out. Just search for it on Amazon. That’s the Remarkable Truth About Chiropractic by Jeff Williams. 
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You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #198 Now if you missed last week’s episode , we talked about Extruded Discs – Surgery or No Surgery? Make sure you don’t miss that info. Keep up with the class.  On the personal end of things….. Well, we went with ReviewWave and I have to say it’s overall been a very positive experience. Except for this one thing. Today, we showed up for work and we have it set to where new patients can pick their schedule and make the appointment themselves. Within certain parameters, of course. Well. Something’s wonky because we showed up at work and, instead of the 6 or 7 new patients we expected today, we now have 10 new patients and 4 re-exams on top of our regular load of established patients.  As you can imagine, this presents a certain set of difficulties. Especially when my exam takes 20 minutes minimum and more typically takes about 30-40 minutes per new patients. So, we’re forced to step on the gas a touch. We’ll get through it and we’ll do a good job but, being too busy is as bad as not being busy enough in some ways.  Patients like to know they’re going to a provider that a lot of other folks go to and find value in. But, when it looks like you’re running them through like cattle and your one on one time is 30-45 seconds rather than a couple of minutes or more….they notice it and I don’t care what the vitalistic philosophy wonk gurus in the profession try to convince you, patients don’t like that.  They feel it and sense it and they don’t like it. I don’t like it. I don’t like people waiting on me. I don’t like making a bad first impression. I don’t like to be rushed any more than I normally am.  More than anything, I don’t want to fall into quantity over quality. I always want quality here. And never forsake it in the search for quantity. That’ll get us nowhere that we want to go.  So, this part of the show will be short, we will survive and do a good job regardless of time constraints, and we have a call scheduled with ReviewWave to remedy the issue.  When you get too busy to fit them in, create a waiting list, hire help, or raise your pricing to thin the herd. Just a little tip from your Ol’ Uncle Jeffro.  Let’s dive in Item #1 The first one is called “Surgical versus conservative treatment for lumbar disc herniation: a prospective cohort study” by Gugliotta et. al.(Gugliotta M 2016)and published in BMJ Open, that is the British Medical Journal for the peasants in the crowd. It’s a joke! Anyway, it was published in December of 2016 and it goes a lil sumpin like dis…. Why They Did It We sought to compare short-term and long-term effectiveness of surgical and conservative treatment in sciatica symptom severity and quality of life in patients with lumbar disc herniation in a routine clinical setting. How They Did It
  • It was a prospective cohort study of a routine clinical practice registry consisting of 370 patients. 
  • Outcome measures were the North American Spine Society questionnaire and the 36-Item Short-Form Health Survey to assess patient-reported back pain, physical function, neurogenic symptoms and quality of life. 
  • Primary outcomes were back pain at 6 and 12 weeks. 
  • Standard open discectomy was assessed versus conservative interventions at 6, 12, 52 and 104 weeks. 
What They Found
  • Surgical treatment patients reported less back pain at 6 weeks than those receiving conservative therapy, were more likely to report ≥50% decrease in back pain symptoms from baseline to 6 weeks and reported less physical function disability at 52 weeks. 
  • The other assessments showed minimal between-group differences with CIs, including the null effect.
Wrap It Up Compared with conservative therapy, surgical treatment provided faster relief from back pain symptoms in patients with lumbar disc herniation, but did not show a benefit over conservative treatment in midterm and long-term follow-up. So, bad for conservative interventions in the short term. Good in the long term. When they spread it out and look long term, there’s minimal difference. So, why risk it in the first place. The rate that low back surgeries must be re-done is too high to risk it. They estimate that around 40% of back surgeries fail.  Yeah, I’m good as long as I don’t have cauda equine or progressive neurological deficits. You keep your full dose of surgery. I’ll have none on this day! So, long-term, minimal difference,…..well then we’re going with no surgery any time it’s appropriate and makes sense.  CHIROUP ADVERTISEMENT Item #2 Alright, the last paper we have today is called, “Association of Lumbar MRI Findings with Current and Future Back Pain in a Population-Based Cohort Study” by Kasch et. al. (Kasch R 2021) and published in Spine Journal.  Why They Did It The authors wanted to examine associations between common lumbar degenerative changes observed on MRI and present or future low back pain.  How They Did It
  • Participants from a population-based cohort study were imaged at study entry,
  • LBP status measured at baseline and 6-year follow-up. 
  • MRI scans were reported for the presence of a range of MRI findings. 
  • LBP status was measured on a 0-10 scale. 
What They Found
  • MRI findings were present in persons with and without back pain at baseline. 
  • Higher proportions were found in older age groups. 
  • 76.4% of participants had a least one MRI finding and 8.3% had 5 or more different MRI findings. 
  • Most MRI findings were slightly more common in those with LBP and pain severity was slightly higher in those with MRI findings
  • In the longitudinal analyses we found most MRI findings were not associated with future LBP-severity regardless of the presence or absence of baseline pain. 
  • Compared to zero MRI findings, having multiple MRI findings (≥5) was associated with mildly greater pain-severity at baseline and greater increase in pain-severity over 6 years in those pain free at baseline, but not in those with baseline pain
Wrap It Up Our study shows that the MRI degenerative findings we examined, individually or in combination, do not have clinically important associations with LBP, with almost all effects less than one unit on a 0-10 pain scale Meaning, quit catastrophizing MRI findings. Quit telling 40 year olds they have the backs of 85 year olds. Quit pushing them into the chronic pain pit because you don’t know schiza from shinola and you’re too damn lazy to take the time and energy to get some smarts beyond what you learned in chiropractic college.  Slap pow pop kazow!! Alright, that’s it. Keep on keepin’ on. Keep changing our profession from your corner of the world. The world needs evidence-based, patient-centered practitioners driving the bus so get active, get involved, and make it happen. Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week.  Store Remember the evidence-informed brochures and posters at chiropracticforward.com.   

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The Message I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots. When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few. It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient. And, if the patient treats preventatively after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health! Key Point: At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints…. That’s Chiropractic! Contact Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show and tell us your suggestions for future episodes.  Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on podcast platforms.  We know how this works by now. If you value something, you have to share it, interact with it, review it, talk about it from time to time, and actively hit a few buttons to support it here and there when asked. It really does make a big difference.  Connect We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. Website
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