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Three Year Anniversary Top Ten Countdown

CF 156: Three Year Anniversary Top Ten Countdown

It’s our THREE YEAR ANNIVERSARY episode!!! We’re going to cover our All-time Top Ten episodes spanning over our first three years on the air.  But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music

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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun, profitable, and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around.  We’re the fun kind of research. Not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. We’re research talk over a couple of beers. I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.   If you haven’t yet I have a few things you should do. 

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You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #156 Now if you missed last week’s episode, we talked about the crazy and very suspicious shake-up with the research committee earlier this year at the World Federation of Chiropractic. Make sure you don’t miss that info. I believe it is vital for you as an evidence-based, patient-centered practitioner. Listen to it anyway because it’s important to keep up with the class. 

On the personal end of things…..

Well, no hate mail from last week’s episode or from the week before that when we highlighted a vitalist bragging about seeing 99 patients and 9 new patients in the span of 3 hours. Dammit, my eyes just about rolled out of my head yet again. It’s like every time I say that I gotta keep an eye on my eyes so I can keep them in my noggin. And, I have to step back a bit to keep from throwing up.  Not getting hate mail is a good thing.

Of course, there’s the very solid chance I’m simply speaking to an echo chamber here, and honestly, that’s OK too. I’d much rather be able to build this among my brethren without being molested by the ones that don’t agree with me.  The more like-minded folks we have listening, the better. The best thing I can say is to tell someone about us. I’m serious. I appreciate every single listen. But if all you do is listen and consume a free product, that’s not helpful in growing it and putting back into the thing you find value in. 

So, please. Tell someone about this podcast and the messages we convey every single week. Let’s build this message. Like I said in last week’s episode, this profession is in a battle. Not just between vitalists and evidence-based chiropractors but in a battle for integration, progress, and overall respect.  A battle for professional standardization. a battle over our research community. As I said last week, the ICA won the battle with the WFC research committee. They know there’s a battle. Now it’s time for evidence-based chiropractors to realize that fact and proceed accordingly. Yes, go read your research papers but then go and defend the evidence-based, patient-centered practice. Advocate for it.  Outside of that mess, things have been slower at the office. With this second spike, we’ve taken a step back. And it’s making my butt pucker a bit. I hate taking steps back. I like only progress. Only movement forward.

I’m seeing the number that I saw 5 or 6 years ago or more. Probably more. We are paying the bills but we’re not profiting right now. We’re just surviving. It can’t be over soon enough.  So that I don’t sound too spoiled; I understand I have it better than a lot of folks. Bar owners, full-time musicians, bartenders, servers, restaurant owners. That’s just for starters. I don’t know how these people survive without forgiveness plans and things like that. It’s insane where we are but I’d rather be sitting here in December than back in March, April, or May.  That’s for damn sure. As of the typing of this episode, the first vaccines are projected to be taken by Americans in about 5 days. Bring it on!! Let’s start getting life back to normal and then sit back and watch the comeback!

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Now, let’s get to our all-time 3rd anniversary top ten most listened to episodes, shall we? If you go to the show notes at chiropracticforward.com, find this episode….#156….and you scroll down through the transcription of the episode, you will find the links to each of these episodes so you don’t have to scroll through and find them on your own.

Number Ten Coming in at Number 10: Our 10th most listened to episode was episode #137. We had a special guest for that episode. Dr. Aric Frisina-Deyo and we talked about chiropractors treating in an FQHC setting and we talked about setting the bar high. Higher than chiropractors typically set the bar for themselves or their profession. This guest….wow. Young, bright, driven, and very very impressive. There’s absolutely a good reason that one had so many listeners.  https://www.chiropracticforward.com/2761-2/

Number Nine It’s nice to see this one still in the Top Ten after so much time has gone by. It’s called What’s Good In A Chiropractor. It was way way back in Episode 101. Keep in mind here that we’re now on #156. This episode is more than a year old now so it’s good to see that the principles I covered in this episode are still resonating with our listeners. In this episode I discussed some key characteristics I feel make up a good chiropractor. We talked about things like honesty, being evidence-based, networking, listening, your office presentation, and things of that nature. It’s excellent to see this stuff staying relevant and meaningful.  https://www.chiropracticforward.com/what-makes-a-good-chiropractor-9-characteristics/

Number Eight Number eight is called Kids Still Hurt, Manipulation For Lumbar Radiculopathy, & Lack of Attention On The Boards for Biopsychosocial Matters. Our listeners gobbled this one up. I think because we need current thinking and information on things like adjusting in the region where we know there’s radiculopathy. We need to understand that just because a person is a kid doesn’t mean they don’t hurt. This episode covered that very well, in fact. And the biopsychosocial aspect of pain has been a big big topic over the last couple of years. I think people are struggling to learn more and more about it and how it can help their patients.  https://www.chiropracticforward.com/cf-145-kids-still-hurt-manipulation-for-lumbar-radiculopathy-lack-of-attention-on-the-boards-for-biopsychosocial-matters/

Number Seven Our 7th most listened to episode was a more recent one with one of my very favorites, Dr. Katie Pohlman who will be on again in the very near future. And will hopefully be on our podcast about a hundred times beyond that. Hell, maybe she’ll just be my co-host eventually. Lol. Anyway, this episode was number 147 and was called New Research, Upcoming Research, And the Need For It All. Dr. Pohlman is the head of research at Parker University and you’re starting to see her name anywhere and everywhere with regard to chiropractic research. She is a star and I’m happy that Parker has hitched their wagon to her shooting star. This episode was full of thoughts on chiropractic research, what she’s currently working on, and where it’s all going.  https://www.chiropracticforward.com/w-dr-katie-pohlman-new-research-upcoming-research-and-the-need-for-it-all/

Number Six Our sixth most listened to episode was episode number 113 with my friend, Dr. William Lawson. This one was called Brand New Guidelines On Neck Pain Treatment. Dr. Lawson had a hand in the new paper we discussed and it was basically an entire episode walking you through new guidelines on treating neck pain. It’s one of my favorite episodes because it laid out very clearly what we should be doing, what we should be thinking, and how we should be approaching case management for neck pain. Very informative and Dr. Lawson is always on the top of his game. https://www.chiropracticforward.com/w-dr-william-larson-brand-new-guidelines-on-neck-pain-treatment/

Number Five Our 5th most listened to episode of all time is number 140 with Dr. Chris Howson. It was called Chiropractors In Hospitals and Drop Release. Not only does Dr. Howson work in an outpatient hospital setting in North Dakota, but Dr. Howson is also the inventor of a newer chiropractic tool on the market called the Drop Release. Pretty cool stuff and Dr. Howson knows his stuff, folks. If you want to know how to integrate into a hospital setting and want to know what it’s like, this is the episode for you. Plus we talk a bit about the drop release, what it’s for, and all the goodies. Plus a discount code you can use if interested.  https://www.chiropracticforward.com/cf-140-w-dr-chris-howson-chiropractors-in-hospitals-drop-release/

Number Four Our 4th most listened to episode is number 144 and is called Common Surgeries Aren’t Well-Researched & Chiropractic Wins Again.  This one was a stroll through a current paper that really spotlighted the fact that the most common musculoskeletal surgeries that we see being performed today don’t have much research behind them. Especially research that tested having the surgery vs. not having it at all. You’d think that research would have been done but sadly it hasn’t in almost every case. In fact, they looked at 6,735 studies and only 64….less than 1% of them….only 64 compared a surgical intervention to not having surgery at all. And, get this, of that 64 that actually did compare the two, only 9 of them were actually favorable to having the surgery. Go to episode 144 for more on that. It’s astonishing to me.  https://www.chiropracticforward.com/common-surgeries-arent-well-researched-chiropractic-wins-again/

Number Three Alright, we’re in the top three now. Our 3rd most listened to episode of all time is number 143 and is called Spinal Manipulation Has No Effect On Chronic Pain – Our Experts’ Rebuttal. This one dealt with a paper that came out recently in JAMA and it was not favorable at all to chiropractors or spinal manipulative therapy. This episode went through our own experts thoughts on the paper and how you can rebut any mention you might get from this down the road as you navigate your relationships within the medical community. Very interesting and extremely useful episode right here. This one can actually help protect your bottom line in the right situation.  https://www.chiropracticforward.com/new-paper-spinal-manipulation-has-no-effect-on-chronic-pain-our-experts-rebuttal/

Number Two Number 2 on our top ten list is episode number 142 and is called Nonoperative Disc Treatment, D3 for Depression, and The Biopsychosocial Part Of Chronic Pain. This one really spoke to chiropractors because it was loaded with research. Of course, most of our episodes are loaded with research but this one had a paper about treating discs without operation. Well, who the heck doesn’t want to do that? It was very comprehensive and showed how 97% of 269,713 patients were treated without surgery. Good good stuff. Things look worse and worse for musculoskeletal surgery these days honestly. And, again, this paper covered the biopsychosocial aspect of pain and that’s a popular topic these days. Something for everyone in this episode! https://www.chiropracticforward.com/nonoperative-disc-treatment-d3-for-depression-the-biopsychosocial-part-of-chronic-pain/

Number One And our number one most listened to episode of all time for our 3rd Anniversary is one that actually surprised me. It’s episode number 141 and is called Lancet Low Back Update & Movement Disorders Mean Pain. Now why this one got all of the listens? I have no idea. The Lancet is well-respected and should absolutely be paid attention to. I’m glad it’s getting all of the listens, to be honest. It was basically an update on the original Lancet series on low back pain that we covered way back when. It’s top-level research having relevance to our chiropractic community and I’m glad to see so many of you appreciating it and paying close attention to it. It’s important. It’s not the sexiest topic we cover so that’s why I found it a bit surprising but it’s a great episode to catch the number one spot for sure. Very deserving.  https://www.chiropracticforward.com/lancet-low-back-update-movement-disorders-mean-pain/

An episode or series of episodes that fell off of the top ten list just this year is still important and one worth giving honorable mention to. Episodes 13, 14, and 15 are called Debunked, The Odd Myth That Chiropractors Cause Strokes.  If you don’t know the research on this topic, please, for the love of everything, go listen to those three episodes starting with 13. It’s knowledge fuel and it’ll give you more confidence if you happen to lack it.  https://www.chiropracticforward.com/debunked-the-odd-myth-that-chiropractors-cause-strokes/

Alright, that’s it. We made it through all ten of the most listened to episodes in the three-year history of The Chiropractic Forward podcast. I want to truly thank you all from the bottom of my heart for listening and being a part of this little part of the world. For being a part of this podcast. When I’m sitting down to type out an episode, you are who I have in mind. I try to identify things I’m interested in but I also try to identify tough conversations that are not being had that desperately need to be talked through. 

We aren’t as big and as widely listened to as I’d like to be but we are growing steadily. If I can get you all on my team and talking about it and sharing episodes with your buddies and interacting in the private group, this thing can begin turning into even more of what I envisioned when I first started it.  With your help, we can get the message out on evidence-based, patient-centered practice.  Y’all be safe. Keep changing our profession from your little corner of the world. Keep taking care of yourselves and everyone around you. Tough times are upon us but, the sun will shine again. Trust it, believe it, count on it. Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week. 

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots. When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few. It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient. And, if the patient treats preventatively after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health!

Key Point: At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints…. That’s Chiropractic!

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About the Author & Host Dr. Jeff Williams – Fellow of the International Academy of Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine – Chiropractor in Amarillo, TX, Chiropractic Advocate, Author, Entrepreneur, Educator, Businessman, Marketer, and Healthcare Blogger & Vlogger  

Some Chiropractors Could Be Better

CF 153: Some Chiropractors Could Be Better Today we’re going to talk about chiropractors, the subluxation – vitalistic group in our profession and we’ll probably make some grumpy vitalistic enemies out of these chiropractors in the process.  But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music

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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun, profitable, and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around.  We’re the fun kind of research. Not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. We’re research talk over a couple of beers. I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.   If you haven’t yet I have a few things you should do. 

  • Like our Facebook page, 
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  • go review our podcast on iTunes and other podcast platforms. 
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Do it do it do it. 

You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #153 Now if you missed last week’s episode , we talked about spinal instability clinical pearls and we tal ked about degeneration and the facets. That was some good stuff you need to to have in your back pocket. Make sure you don’t miss that info. Keep up with the class.  While we’re on the topic of being smart, did you know that you can use our website as a resource? Quick and easy, you can go to chiropracticforward.com, click on Episodes, and use the search function

On the personal end of things…..

I’m doing hte same stuff you’re doing for the most part. I’m just struggling through this second wave of COVID. Trying to stay smart and trying to stay healthy. I wish I could say the same for everyone around me.  For example, I just had a staff member start this week off by telling me she started working a part time job on the weekends because she got an apartment she thought she could afford but it’s not as easy as she thought.  Anyway, at this part time job, her buddy drank out of her drink. She’s like, oh well, it’s just my friend. No big deal. Yeah, no big deal friend called her today…..2 days after that…..and is feeling bad and going to get tested. Now, does that mean my girl has it? Of course not. The friend wasn’t even symptomatic so the chances are low she has it in the first place and if she does have it now, the chances she was shedding the virus then are low. 

Still…..come on man. Be smart. My daughter goes to school with 1000 plus kids every day and I don’t let her take a sip of my drink or anything like that. Much less a buddy at my part time job. Hell no. hell no.  So those are the things we get to battle with, right? We can control everything about what we personally do but we can’t control our kids at school with their friends. We can’t control my other kid at college and his behavior. We can’t control our staff when they’re not here at work.  We just do our best, keep our fingers crossed, and keep working diligently. And hopefully safely.  Not because I’m necessarily scared of getting it. Mostly because I don’t want to shut my practice down for 2 weeks minimum. Who can afford that? So let’s get on with pissing people off, shall we? 

If you don’t understand by this point that there is a divide in our profession that simply cannot be healed, tied together, or unified, well….I don’t know what to do for you. You just need to pay more attention.  If at any point you have thought the two groups could come together, you are fooling yourself. This profession either needs to be split into two completely different degrees and entities or the vitalists need to practice their minimal practice and sit in the back seat and shut the hell up.  Yep….shots fired. I know. I’ll explain more as we go. Every now and then I get fired up and this is one of those times. I’m triggered. I’m the grumpy old ‘get the hell off of my lawn’ guy. More specifically, I’m ‘raise your damn game and quit actiing like fools’ guy. 

I should tell you why I’m triggered first. As our listeners are well-aware, I am a member of lots of Facebook groups but the most notable would be the Forward Thinking Chiropractic Alliance. Most friends and family would classify me as conservative in finances and life in general but when it comes to my profession, I’m all about progressive change and forward momentum. So this group fits me very well.  Anyway, one of the members posted a screenshot of a doctor  – trust me – I use that ‘doctor’ term extremely loosely here – it was a post of this guy claiming that with one table, by himself, he treated 99 chiropractic patients and 9 new patient exams all in 3 hours.  I did the math for you all. That’s right at 2 minutes per patient.

Well, for many of us, that’s not too far off of the mark for established patients. Some of you are boutique practices and spend 30 minutes to an hour with each patient and charge out the wazoo for that. But, for most of us, we are adjusting, passing off to our staff for therapy and rehab and moving on to the next patient.  I want to be fair here. My face to face time is typically 3-5 mintues with an established just depending on what questions I have to answer, if there’s a new complaint popping up that needs evaluated, new patient education, and things like that. Some slightly less than 3 mintues, some quite a bit longer than 5 minutes. 

Now, my patients’ whole visit will clock in on average around 20-30 minutes after therapy and/or rehab but that is delegated to the staff.  Here’s the real kicker for me on this joke. The new patients. I can not get past the new patients. Now I’ve seen 7 or 8 new patients in a day while juggling another 50 or more established patients. But damn man…that’s over the course of a 7 hour day. And, while I don’t think it makes me particulary any more special than anyone else, I have a Fellowship in neuromusculoskeletal medicine. I can come to a diagnosis somewhat quickly when compared to others.  Still, my exam, unless it’s a simple rib complaint or something easy like that, it’s going to take 30-45 mintues. Easy. And that’s with staff doing their history and intake part.

Them filling out OATS takes time on top of that. Plus, I recorded a 7 minute, ‘Welcome to our practice’ video they all watch.  Look, there’s no damn way on this damn planet anyone calling themselves doctor works that many new patients through in 3 hours while juggling 99 established patients and claims they’re doing a good job. No way now how. Nope, no, negatory, NO! Worst of all, he’s a vitalist, practice management guru so he’s offering to show other, impressionable knuckleheads how to mistreat patients all on their own.

Solo crappery if you will. Crappy treatment all by themselves. With his crappy guidance. What a crappy deal.  I have 34 mutual friends with this person and that’s just disappointing. It truly is. Many of you know who I’m referring to but I see no point in mentioning names because the last thing I want is to bring him even more attention. Especially when I don’t see the reason even one person would pay him any at all.  I have no way of knowing how long they’re spending with new patients but let’s just agree that it’s not 30-45 minutes.

There’s no way. I know this because if he spent 30 minutes with each of the 9 new patients, that would be about 4 and a half hours. Much more than the 3 hours he talked about in the post.  We are forced to assume it is much less than that. So let’s play with the math. Three hours is 180 minutes. I think we can all agree on that. A former attendee to one of his seminars said he bragged in the seminar that he could adjust a patient top to bottom in just 30 seconds. As a sidenote, he taught how to have the trash can right next to the door so that he could tear the face paper and grap the door knob in one smooth motion so as to have the door open and showing the person out before they’re even off of the table. That way, you don’t have to talk to them.  So you don’t have to talk to the patient……you get that?

Good Lord, can you imagine a doctor having to speak to their patient after treatment is provided? The horrors!!! Anyway, let’s say 30 seconds is his record but it actually takes one minute on average per patient. If 30 seconds is the fastest, can’t we assume there will at least be some greeting involved in the appointment? Some questions from time to time? There may be some 30 second appointments in there but there may be some minute and a half and some two minute appointments as well. I think that’s fair. 

So, if each of the 99 established takes an average of one minute, which is stillsubstandard care by the way, if they all average one minute, then that leaves 81 minutes to examine and evaluate 9 new patients. That means he has roughly 10-15 minutes for each new patient to do the following if he’s going to adequately assess the patient and have a specific diagnosis outside of subluxation slaying and spine whispering.  He’s got to:

  • Review the history taken by the staff before he came in
  • Review the range of motion if taken in advance by the staff
  • Review the vitals 
  • Meet the patient and listen to their story
  • Assess gait
  • Assess standing posture
  • Check yellow flags and discuss any that are present with the patient
  • Check for red flags – not everyone needs x-rays
  • Check reflexes
  • Check dermatomes
  • Check muscle strength (not freaking AK)
  • Check neurodynamic positions for radiculopathy
  • Assess for Ehler-Danlos and hypermobility
  • Check orthos
  • Check neuro testing
  • Check for extension/flexion bias positions in some cases
  • Come up with an accurate diagnosis
  • Educate the patient on their diagnosis
  • If chronic pain is part of the case, he has to educate on CNS upregulation and the biopsychosocial aspect of pain which is at least a 5 mintues conversation. 
  • Teach proper movement and biomechancis to remove the daily pain triggers
  • He has to answer questions the patient may have

Hell, I wonder if he’s ever had someone lay on their stomachs propped on their elbows for 3 minutes to see if they can identify a home self management strategy for their low back pain? Hell no. Three minutes wouldn’t fit into this doctor-centered model.  I have no way of knowing but I’m guessing the exam consists of ‘checking subluxation’ and telling them to lay down.

Pop, pop, pop, the ridiculous power is on, see you tomorrow for you next life-saving adjustment. It’s silly. And it’s insane. And it’s not evidence-based. And it’s not patient-centered. It’s not special. It doesn’t take talent other than being able to sell targets garbage. It’s the lowest common denominator and nothing more. 

The point being made here is that one cannot do an adequate, responsible, and appropriate exam in this amount of time. And assuming they average only one minute per patient face to face, that’s substandard as hell. Would you want your kid or brother or sister or mom or dad shuttled through an office like a bullet from a gun? Or would you want them to go to someone that cares, connects with them, slows down a tad and takes their time to listen and work with them? The answer is obvious and if you tell me you’d rather your family go to this guy or anyone like them, then you’re just being obstinate and disagreeable.

It’s obvious which style is superior in healthcare.  Maybe working on an assembly line you’d like to see fast, efficient, and little attention given to the specifics. But not in healthcare. This model, I’m sorry to be blunt here….this model is garbage when we are working with the breathing, ever-changing human body.  And….oh this guy loves him some of him. Oh my goodness. If someone likes to look in the mirror every morning, it’s probably this guy. Now, he’s selling his unique brand of BS to others. He’s doing a good job of it too. He’s got sycophants all over now learning how to shuttle them out of the office without having to speak to them. 

They’re in the comments section of this post proclaiming him a rock star! BS. Rock on! I can’t wait to do this when I get out of school! You’re an inspiration. How awesome!!! Blahditty freaking blah. BS, BS, BS. I would comment, “What an embarrassment to our chiropractic community! What a fool! What about exercise and rehab? What about quality over quantity? You give our profession a bad name. You’re one of the reasons we have zero cultural authority and can’t pass a bill in the legislature because you and your followers are irresponsible!!!”  You know….things like that.  Now, I’ve been asked why I talk bad about other chiropractors.

Running them down and such. I don’t call it that at all. I call it policing our own and calling out BS when it’s right under your nose. I don’t know about you but I don’t want BS under my nose. It stinks. And not only can I smell it, but everyone else I come into contact with smells it as well. So, basically, these people’s actions reflect on me, my business, and my livelihood. And yours as well. So if you’ve been going along to get along thinking it doesn’t matter, it does matter. It matters to your bottom line. 

Can you imagine if we were to have more cultural authority and more integration into a regular healthcare protocol…..can you imagine how full our offices would be? Low back pain is the number one reason for disability globally folks. Yet we only see 10% of the damn population. It’s obvious why and the Palmer Gallup poll laid it out. The biggest reason people don’t go to chiropractors is because they don’t freaking trust us. Because of fools like this.  Lots of high volume clinics like this slay subluxations non-stop for weeks and weeks. Some see people every week for life. Think about a self-adjuster. The more they did it, the easier it got to the point they created instability in their neck, they have consistent chronic pain, and now they’re a mess.

Can we see this happen in patients that are adjusted too often for too long? Of course we can!!  These spine whipering TORs are many times creating instability and causing chronic pain. Which is the damn thing the knuckleheads are supposed to be treating in the first place. But they were too lazy to get educated beyond college and some continuing education each year about proper documentation and how to adjust an elbow.  What if they have a hypermobile EDS patient that really needs weight training but they just keep hammering away at what they call subluxations? This is low quality garbage for people that aren’t taking the time to properly evaluate their patients in the new patient exam.  In one of his videos he says, “The patient doesn’t care about anything other than does the doctor care and can he help me?” Again, I use that doctor term exceedingly loosely. I have to just say that he is 100% wrong. Yes, patients do care about those two things but you know what else they care about?

They also care that their doctor is smart. Is on top of his game. Is making decisions in the best interest of the patient and not the clinic or the doctor’s wallet. They care about proper biomechanics so they don’t re-injure their back. They care that if they’re hyper mobile, maybe they shouldn’t be adjusted and should focus on weight training instead. They care that a slight decrease in neck curvature isn’t really the harbinger of death and disease some chiros act like it is. They want to know their doctor is making decisions on their care based on accurate diagnoses. Is making decisions on their care based on research and not philosophy. Trust me, they care about a hell of a lot more than How incredibly arrogant of this supposed doctor to think he has the only answer to what patients care about. They’re not freaking sheep with little to no thought processes.

They’re smart as hell in many cases and they absolutely care about a whole lot of stuff is missing. Saying they don’t is selling them short and it’s unfortunate that he’s going around teaching that. One more example of him being doctor-centered rather than patient-centered. “I….the doctor….knows what the patient really wants and cares about. They can’t think for themselves.” Garbage.  Of course patients don’t care about the biopsychosocial aspects of pain. They don’t even know what the hell that is. But we as professionals should absolutely know and absolutely care and leverage it to our advantage. We should know about upregulated CNS and educate patients about it. Because it matters. The question might be, “Why would people keep going back?”

Well a lot don’t but, in general the ones that do have typically had the crap scared out of them based on x-rays that usually shouldn’t have even been taken in the first place. “Looky here, loss of curvature, that is so concerning. I’m really worried about this and what it means for your future if we don’t get that fixed. That’ll be 58 visits this year at a cost of $4800. That’ll be upfront and here’s the contract to hold you to it.”  Predatory, unbelievably unethical, astoundingly unprofessional, and embarrassing.  Fro every patient referred to a clinic like this, I’d guess they lose one that thinks they and every other chiropractor on the planet is insane.

Thank you vitalists. I really appreciate it. So much. thank you.  Clinics like this only see their successes. So they think they’re amazing. I’ll be honest, I see A LOT of patients coming to see me from practices like this because patients can’t stand being shuttled through like cattle, not being listened to, feeling that the care is substandard, being scared by the doctor into treatment, being scared into contracts, and things of that sor They feel taken advantage of and they don’t like it. And I don’t blame them. I just appreciate them for giving me a chance to show them that the majority of chiropractors don’t engage in foolish crap.

That we can play an integral part in resolving their pain. I have heard the most embarrassing stories about chiropractors from patients that escaped clinics like this. A chiropractor can still focus on subluxations but do it in an evidence based, patient-cantered way. Wanna help more people? Hire more docs to handle that patient load and be able to have the time it takes to spend with the patients to do a proper job. Serve more people.  Just hire more people to do it. I just want better from this guy and people like him. I want a standard in our profession. I want more from our profession. I want to have a conversation with someone in the medical field or someone that knows very little about chiropractic and not feel the need to apologize for guys like this.

He’s clearly a talented guy and a leader on some level. I just wish the talent was more focused on evidence-based, patient-centered endeavors. Basically, I don’t have a problem with people practicing under the subluxation model when they’re not advising against vaccines. We didn’t learn enough about them to be a damn authority on it. Stay out of the conversation either direction. It is not ours to have. Can you imagine telling a mother not to get a baby vaccinated and then the baby gets measles? Steer clear of that conversation.  Anyway, I don’t mind people practicing that model. At the end of the day, we are all moving bones. The adjustment is the cornerstone of my practice but it’s only a piece of my practice. IT’s not the end-all-be-all. IT’s a puzzle piece but the piece is the biggest piece of my puzzle and it’s right in the center of the puzzle. Nothing more nothing less.

It’s not spiritual. It’s just a really big, very effective tool I have.  My issue is the thought that a thorough and comprehensive exam is not necessary. That connecting with patients is not important. That talking with them, answering their silly questions, and educating them is not important.  It all is very important and all of it, like it or not, takes time. It just does and time is a constant we must all contend with and work within the contraints of.  So….that’s me, folks. Raw. And mostly censored because trust me, I cuss like a sailor when I’m not on this podcast. I could make this discussion so much more colorful and it’s deserving of the cuss words.  I know many of you know this guy and you think he’s the bees knees and you’ll probably tune out here and think I’m just an awful person because

I’m talking this way about him but here’s the deal, we cannot let quackery and foolishness not only permeat what should be an evidence-based, patient-centered healthcare discipline…..but it is pervasive. Not only is it permeating, but it’s pervasive. You don’t have to look far to find a sycophant.  I have 34 nutual friends with this knucklehead afterall. What more do I need to say? So, more akin to the medical field, we should recognize BS, we should call it out, and we should educate against it. And that’s what I’m doing. Every week.  It’s not the subluxation-based thing that gets me. I’m used to that. It’s the culture around it that is insane.

Don’t vaccinate, as long as you stay adjusted, don’t worry about COVID, or any other disease, I say a knucklehead guru in school telling me adjstements pushed cancer out of guy’s body. Come on, man. When New Mexico had a shortage of practitioners and allowed chirorpactors to go to two extra years of education to get an advanced practitioner certificate to help prescribe and help handle the patient load, you know who showed up to testify against their own colleagues? Vitalist, subluxation-based, crazy-eyed imbecile chiropractors holding on to green books, the words of BJ, and a philosophy created in the late 1800’s.

Yeah, great look folks.  You know who is against the ACA’s push for Medicare parity? Yeah, not just the usual suspects like the AMA. Nope, hell, the AMA’s best teamates against chiropractic are the vitalists. Yeah, I’ve seen the sychophants of Matthew McCoy railing against us being treated equally under Medicare. Explain that for me….someone….please explain that.  Again, it’s not the subluxation. I don’t personally use or care for that word or philosophy but that’s not it. IT’s the insane leaders of that cult and the culture surrounding it that makes me want to punt baby bunnies into the damn stratosphere.  So, if you’re a subluxation person, my beef is not with you as long as you’re not scaring and taking advantage of your patients. As long as you’re not telling them to see you 80 times this year to keep them healthy and all that. I have no beef with you. 

Especially if you’re a Christian. Telling a patient that they were made imperfectly by a God you put every bit of your faith in makes no sense. at all. Y’all I’m a Christian. God makes no mistakes. He didn’t put us on Earth imperfect and in need of a chiropractor every week of our lives or be a miserable wreck of a person just waiting around on death’s doorstep. What a foolish concept for the faith-based models out there. The Body By God group. It’s silly. Sure be faitful, no problem there. But don’t tell people that they need you.

Otherwise, God can’t express himself fully without you. Yes, that is one of their talking points in case you were wondering. Insanity.  Current guides tell us to use spinal manipulative therapy for movement dysfunction, use exercise and rehabilitation, use low level laser, use heat, yoga, acupuncture, and soft tissue manual therapy, use balance and proprioceptive training as well. These are all ways of leveraging modalities to great effect in resolving pain. They also teach us to NOT create dependency in the patient upon us.

They shouldn’t depend on us. We should be teaching them ways to self manage ongoing pain at home and see them for periodic flare-ups.  That’s evidence-based and that’s patient-centered. 180 degrees opposite of what this practice I’m speaking about is doing.  There are so many amazing chiropractors in the world that have raised their games to such a level that they can command respect and money for their opinions and treatment. Then…..there just aren’t. They’re educationally lazy but they can sure talk a great game.  I’d like to see eveyrone raising the level. Raising the standard and taking this profession into an era of growth, progress, and respect. 

Item #1

It’s called “The disappearance of the primary care physical examination – losing touch” by Dr. Paul Hyman(Hyman P 2020), and MD and it was published in JAMA on August 24, 2020.  Damn the sizzle!!

It’s an article so high points we will hit upon He starts out by asking, “What is a physica examination worth?” He says he’s noticed that physical exams seem to be falling by the wayside in recent years and that fact has been highlighted for him since looking at the daily schedule and determining which will be see face to face in the days of COVID.  He says that an exam is clearly needed at times for a diagnosis but that he’s realizing other ways he commonly uses exams as well. He says it is a means through which he pauses and physically connects with patients. It’s a way to demonstrate his knowledge and authority to the patient.

He says it’s also a chance to persuade patients and reevaluate their narrative.  On the part about demostrating your knowledge, what are you demonstrating when you do a minimal, piss ant exam? Whether you know it or not, you may be demonstrating your lack of knowledge, right? Especially when that patient has had enough of your crap and goes to someone that knows what they’re doing. When the patients say, “This is awesome! The other chiropractor didn’t do any of this,” well, we have a pretty good idea of where you’ve been before getting to us.  He goes on to say, “When patients and I disagree on a plan, the physical examination not only provides data, it also acts as an arbiter.” 

He makes an excellent point here when he says, “In an admission of my own insecurity, the physical examination remains one of the few domains where I maintain a sense of professional skill and authority. I have never been much of a proceduralist. The mainstay of what I offer to patients is the ability to listen to them, to use critical thinking skills, and to offer my knowledge and experience. But those skills are sometimes challenged in a world where patients research their own health and develop their own medical narratives.

The physical examination remains a place where I offer something of distinct value that is appreciated.” You cannot make a difference in patients’ lives when you don’t know what the hell is wrong with them because you didn’t have the knowledge it takes to be accurate or because you only took 10 minutes to examine them.  CHIROUP ADVERTISEMENT

Item #2

This second item is called “Chiropractic, one big unhappy family: better together or apart?” by Leboeuf-Yde et. al. (Leboeuf-Yde C 2020) from February 2019 and published in Chirorpactic and Manual Therapies. 

Again, it’s an article so hittin the high spots.  They say that the profession has a long history of internal conflict. Today, the division is between the ‘evidence-friendly’ faction that focuses on musculoskeletal problems based on a contemporary and evidence-based paradigm, and the ‘traditional’ group that subscribes to concepts such as ‘subluxation’ and the spine as the centre of good health. This difference is becoming increasingly obvious and problematic from both within and outside of the profession in light of the general acceptance of evidence-based practice as the basis for health care. They argue here that the situation within the chiropractic profession corresponds very much to that of an unhappy couple that stays together for reasons that are unconnected with love or even mutual respect.  We also contend that the profession could be conceptualised as existing on a spectrum with the ‘evidence-friendly’ and the ‘traditional’ groups inhabiting the end points, with the majority of chiropractors in the middle. I personally call the ones in the middle agnostics.

They take a little subluxation/innate talk to heart but think evidence-based is the way to go but are not motivated about learning any of the evidence and research. Or just don’t know where to go to find it.  They say this middle group does not appear to be greatly concerned with either faction and seems comfortable taking an approach of ‘you never know who and what will respond to spinal manipulation’. We believe that this ‘silent majority’ makes it possible for groups of chiropractors to practice outside the logical framework of today’s scientific concepts. In their conclusion they say, “There is a need to pause and consider if the many reasons for disharmony within the chiropractic profession are, in fact, irreconcilable. It is time to openly debate the issue of a professional split by engaging in formal and courageous discussions.

This item should be prioritised on the agendas of national associations, conferences, teaching institutions, and licensing/registration as well as accreditation bodies. However, for this to happen, the middle group of chiropractors will have to become engaged and consider the benefits and risks of respectively staying together or breaking up.” No matter where you stand on it, it’s though-provoking and I’m sure to find email inbox filling. Lol.

I’m sure I get plenty of hate mail on this episode but I’ll get a lot of support as well. I cannot simply sit by and see BS and sweep it up under the rug. We have to meet it and stand boldly in front of it, and turn it away. For the betterment of ourselves, our profession, and our patients. 

 

Alright, that’s it.

Y’all be safe. Keep changing our profession from your little corner of the world. Keep taking care of yourselves and everyone around you. Tough times are upon us but, the sun will shine again. Trust it, believe it, count on it. Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week.  Store Remember the evidence-informed brochures and posters at chiropracticforward.com. 

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The Message I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots. When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few. It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient. And, if the patient treats preventativly after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health!

Key Point: At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints…. That’s Chiropractic!

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Bibliography

  • Hyman P (2020). “The Disappearance of the Primary Care Physical Examination—Losing Touch.” JAMA Internal Med 180(11): 1417-1418.
  • Leboeuf-Yde C, I. S., Young K, Kauchuk G, Hartvigsen J, (2020). “Chiropractic, one big unhappy family: better together or apart?” Chiropr Man Therap 27(4).      

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CF 151: Chiropractic Integration Into A Medical Setting Today we’re going to talk about chiropractic integration into a medical setting But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music  

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On the personal end of things…..

Well….how’s your week? Mine? It’s just eh… If you listened to a couple of weeks ago, I had a big week with some good numbers that looked like we were getting back to pre-COVID numbers. I was sniffing that level once again. Then, a three-day snow and ice storm decided that things were going a little bit too smoothly around here and shut us down for basically Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of last week. 

As a result, we went from 172 visits the week prior down to last week only seeing 71. So….roughly 100 visits just pissed off last week. Which left me pissed off. It’s been a mess this year and I’m no different than most. For that reason, I’m not going to sit here and gripe about it. We’re back in the ’70s this week so here’s to trying to reclaim those lost appointments and keeping our patients on track to getting better. 

Where we started the great week with 50+ patients on a Monday, this Monday we’re starting out the week with 26. Blah. But 4 new patients so, let’s hang our hats on the good stuff, shall we? And yes, we shall. 

This has absolutely been the year of making lemonade out of lemons. If you’re not strong mentally, this year is a bruiser, man. And let’s be honest, I’ve had ups and downs. I’m still having them. 

Hell, this week, as in many places, now that it’s time to rebuild after three lost days to weather, now the second COVID spike is in full swing. Yep, a bad day around here used to be 70 new cases. It was that way for 6 months or more. Now, in the last 2 weeks, we’re looking at averaging 240 or more cases per day. The hospitals are full and they’re bringing help in from out of town. I could let that work my head over but I won’t. Or…..at least I’ll try not to let it work me over. 

Have you ever watched The Secret? I sort of recommend it if you can absorb things in the right context. OR, I can just summarize it for you. Basically, it’s all about having a vision so strong that you basically will something to happen. If you believe it enough, the world will bend itself to make it happen for you. For example, from the movie, if you believe that there will always be a close parking spot available for you when you go shopping at different places, then you will indeed find close and wide-open parking spots. 

Or, if you really want a Ferrari, and you dream about it, feel yourself sitting in the seat, and feel the rev of the engine while you grip the steering wheel, etc….well, then surely, eventually you will indeed have yourself a Ferrari. Lol. 

Well, if you listen to this podcast enough, then you know damned well that I don’t buy into that kind of garbage. But there is a message in it that I do like and support. That message is that our lives are built on and based on our ability to be positive or negative basically.

I have an example from today for you. On the way to work this morning, not 2 blocks from my house, I almost got into 3 car wrecks within a time span of about 2 minutes. Seriously. At one point I had to stand on my brakes and throw everything into the floorboards. This while I was simultaneously yelling and hollering at this fool stopped in front of me. 

I could go into particulars on how it happened but that wouldn’t matter. What matters is that at that point in my day, I made a conscious decision. Was I going to let that ruin my day or was I going to see it for what it was and move on from it?

In The Secret, they say that our mentality from day to day affects our relationships with others. From our business interactions to our personal and family interactions. And it’s true. If you extrapolate that further, our mentality will either draw people TO us or push them AWAY from us. 

So, if I let that close encounter affect my mood from there on throughout the day, potentially, whether I was conscious of it or not, it could have affected my interactions with patients, staff, and then later at home. 

Alternatively, if I kick it out of my head and try to have a positive take on it….I didn’t get in a wreck after all!!! It could have been worse, right? 

That was my decision and I decided that it was over and I’m going to forget about it, not dwell on it, not be mad about it, and just move forward. 

On a larger scale, while I talk and share a lot about my business’s progress post-COVID here, for the most part, I’ve tried to adopt the ‘can do’ attitude. My generation Gen X is known for it. It is what it is. Let’s put on a smile, strap up our belts, and put one foot in front of the other. 

And that’s what’s making it happen here. We’re like Rocky in Rocky III. Clubber COVID Lang keeps slapping me around and punching me in the nose and when it’s not Clubber, it’s Thunder Lips throwing me out of the ring. Lol. Sometimes it’s like you just can’t win. And if you dwell on that crap, well, you know what happens. It affects everything you do and all of your connections. 

So, if Clubber Lang and Thunder Lips keep kicking your ass every week, put a smile on, stay doggedly determined, and come out swinging. All of this crap has a time limit. It will end eventually. Make sure you’re on top of the heap when it does.  Everyone loves an underdog. 

Item #1 First one of the day is called “Implementation of musculoskeletal specialists in the emergency department at a level A1 VA hospital during the SARS-Cov-2 pandemic” by Schielke et. al(Schielke A 2020). and published in The American Journal of Emergency Medicine on October 8, 2020,

Schiza….piping hot pile of poblanos!!

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It’s not a research paper as much as an article so let’s get going with the highspots. 

  • They mention how the Rona depleted ER resources about the same time that pain management was deemed to be non-essential
  • They say that low back pain presenting in the ER has become more and more common and less traditional providers may be better suited to manage musculoskeletal pain. 
  • Bolstering the idea of alternative providers being involved, are the more current guidelines recommending nonpharmacologic treatment for low back pain. At least initially. 
  • Early conservative management for ED LBP has been associated with reduced pain and disability even when compared to patients with conservative outpatient physical therapy referrals
  • Multiple studies point out integrated ED MSK-specialist (MSK-S) reduced length of stay, imaging utilization, and opioid administration rates, and improved overall ED metrics when compared to patients seen by typical ED providers
  • Additionally, a 2018 systematic review and meta-analysis supports nonpharmacologic interventions for reduction of overall ED utilization and length of stay, and are effective in reducing pain in the ED with the potential to improve patient satisfaction, outcomes, and quality of life
  • VA Palo Alto Health Care System (VAPAHCS) 2019 proprietary data revealed approximately 60% of cases presenting to the ED were urgent/emergent MSK complaints, primarily LBP
  • As the health department postponed non-essential healthcare due to COVID, the plan to integrate non-traditional providers was amped up and happened on March 30, 2020, lasting through June 8th. 
  • Designated MSK-S care was provided during peak hours by chiropractic and physical therapy departments.
  • A “hub-and-spoke” arrangement was developed and per protocol, initial ED triage assessed for any serious spinal pathology, and a medical symptom evaluation was performed (“hub”). If diagnosed as MSK LBP, MSK-S referral was made with direct same-day hand-off (“spoke”).
  • Incorporation of MSK-S was shown, anecdotally, to be effective in treating acute MSK complaints as providers and patients were both able to benefit from the conservative options available in the ED
  • From the ED administration viewpoint, a liaison between ED and other sub-specialties utilizing a hub-and-spoke paradigm shift allows for the delivery of more efficient healthcare. With the positive feedback from the administration, ED providers, staff, and patients, integrated MSK-S clinics continue to develop within that VA system.
  • A 2018 review article by Kim et al. called for the use of an MSK-S in the ED and also provided clinical implementation guidance for any healthcare systems looking to adopt a similar practice.

Wow!! That’s pretty cool. Do you know what I did with this? I sent it to my friends in the medical field. Why not? The worst saying in the history of man is “We’ve just always done it that way.” What if there’s a better way? Of course, we know there is. The trick is in getting them to know there is. 

Item #2 Our last one today is called “Integration of Doctors of Chiropractic Into Private Sector Health Care Facilities in the United States: A Descriptive Survey” by Salsbury, et. al`. and published in the Journal of Manipulative Physiological Therapeutics in February of 2018. Not new but pairs well with our first item. 

Why They Did It The purpose of this study was to describe the demographic, facility, and practice characteristics of doctors of chiropractic (DCs) working in private sector health care settings in the United States.

How They Did It

  • They conducted an online, cross-sectional survey using a purposive sample of DCs working in integrated health care facilities. 
  • The 36-item survey collected demographic, facility, chiropractic, and interdisciplinary practice characteristics, which were analyzed with descriptive statistics.

What They Found

  • The response rate was 76%
  • Doctors of chiropractic reported working in hospitals (40%)
  • multispecialty offices (21%),
  • ambulatory clinics (16%)
  • or other (21%) health care settings
  • Most (68%) were employees and received a salary
  • More than 60% reported co-management of patients with medical professionals.
  • Integrated DCs most often received and made referrals to primary care, physical medicine, pain medicine, orthopedics, and physical or occupational therapy
  • Although in many facilities the DCs were exclusive providers of spinal manipulation (43%), in most, manipulative therapies also were delivered by physical therapists and osteopathic or medical physicians.

Wrap It Up

Doctors of chiropractic are working in diverse medical settings within the private sector, in close proximity and collaboration with many provider types, suggesting a diverse role for chiropractors within conventional health care facilities. Alright, that’s it. Y’all be safe. Keep changing our profession from your little corner of the world. Keep taking care of yourself and everyone around you. Tough times are upon us but, the sun will shine again. Trust it, believe it, count on it. Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week. 

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The Message I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots. When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few. It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient. And, if the patient treats preventatively after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health!

Key Point: At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints…. That’s Chiropractic!

Contact Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show and tell us your suggestions for future episodes.  Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on podcast platforms.  We know how this works by now. If you value something, you have to share it, interact with it, review it, talk about it from time to time, and actively hit a few buttons to support it here and there when asked. It really does make a big difference. 

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We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward.

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Bibliography

  • Schielke A, B. A., Walsh R, Rajagopal P, (2020). “Implementation of musculoskeletal specialists in the emergency department at a level A1 VA Hospital during the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic.” American J Emerg Med.

New Information On 5 Actions To Change Clinical Practice

CF 131: New Information On 5 Actions To Change Clinical Practice Today we’re going to talk about moving toward being patient-centered. There are 5 actions recommended. What does it even mean? I might just ruffle some feathers here but a damn I do not giveth. But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music  
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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun, profitable, and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around.  We’re the fun kind of research. Not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. We’re research talk over a couple of beers. I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.   If you haven’t yet I have a few things you should do. 
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Do it do it do it.  You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #131 Now if you missed last week’s episode , we were joined by Dr. Kevin Christie with The Modern Chiropractic Marketing podcast and author of a new book that’s coming out on chiropractic marketing. Kevin is a rising star in chiropractic and is a must-not-miss. Make sure you don’t miss that info. Keep up with the class.  While we’re on the topic of being smart, did you know that you can use our website as a resource? Quick and easy, you can go to chiropracticforward.com, click on Episodes, and use the search function to find whatever you want quickly and easily. With over 100 episodes in the tank and an average of 2-3 papers covered per episode, we have somewhere between 250 and 300 papers that can be quickly referenced along with their talking points.  Just so you know, all of the research we talk about in each episode is cited in the show notes for each episode if you’re looking to dive in a little deeper.  On the personal end of things….. Still climbing in the patient numbers. Where I’m located here in Amarillo, TX, there is a population of approximately 280,000 people. Last week, on Thursday and Friday we added 3 total cases of COVID on Thursday and only 2 cases on Friday. Then the following Monday, we added 11.  So, as you can see, the numbers here are no longer high. People are sort of ‘over it’ and you can see that and hear it when you talk to the patients. Hell, I’m sort of over it but still being smart. I’m having friends to the house again but we stay outside by the pool and have a couple of adult beverages.  I have a friend that is a musician. Last weekend, he played a rodeo on Woodward, OK. He said there were probably 1,000+ people at the event and it was indoors. So, in Woodward, OK at least, they are REALLY over it. No way in hell I’m grouping up with that many people indoor or outdoor right now. It just doesn’t make sense to me for now.  I guess if I were 28 and at the top of my game physically it wouldn’t make any difference to me either. But going to an event where people are yelling and cheering right behind, beside, and in front of me….big nopers right now. Ain’t happnin’ I noticed that while cases seem to be leveling off across America, they’re not increasing or decreasing as much as you’d like but, what I noticed is that the deaths are going down. Fairly signficantly. So wouldn’t that fit with the news that started coming out a couple weaks ago about the virus losing some potency?  People are still getting it but not as many dying from it. Another explanation could be that we’ve gotten better at treating it. Either way, that’s not my lane so I’m not going to act like the expert. I’ll just say hell yay-us and keep the good news coming so we can all get back to life as it was meant to be lived.  I hope you’re all well and staying healthy. As always, if you care about the kind of information I share every week and you listen consistently, I’m proud of you. I think you care about the right stuff and even though I don’t know you all, I consider you my friend.  Item #1 Let’s kick this week’s research reviews off with this one called ‘It is time to move beyond body region silos to manage musculoskeletal pain; five actinos to change clinical practice’ by Caneiro et. al(Caneiro JP 2020). published in British Journal of Sports Medicine in 2020. We got a hot one over here!! This paper actually has a lot of big names in the industry like Caneiro, O’Sullivan, O’Sullivan and Jan Hartvigsen. If you don’t know Jan’s name, you just haven’t been a regular listener.  Why They Did It They say that current clinical research, education, and practice approaches musculoskeletal pain and conditions in silos. Basically it’s a focus on body regions like the knee, hip, neck, shoulder, etc.  But current thinking actually shows that the pain disorders are frequently comorbid and share common biopsychosocial risk profiles for pain and disability.  They say that a shift to focusing on the person is what is needed and that this would encourage the doctors to:
  1. focus on the patients’ context and modifiable biopsychosocial factors that influence their pain and disability
  2. Use education to facilitate active management approaches (targeted exercise therapy, physical activity, and healthy lifestyle habits) thus reducing reliance on passive interventions
  3. Consider evidence-based surgical procedures only for those with a clear indication and where guideline-based non-surgical approaches have been rigorously adhered to. 
Well who the hell can’t get behind all of that? Honestly, it’s odd when you think about it that in the year 2020, we’re still saying that surgery should be evidence-based and follow certain guides and that conservative treatment should be first basically. How’s that not just common sense and common procedure in 2020? We’re supposed to have freaking flying cars by now but the medical field doesn’t have this stuff down they way they should just yet?  It’s money. I know. I understand it. But it’s frustrating as hell all the same.  In this paper, the authors say to be truly patient-centered, they have five actions they recommend for managing a person with musculoskeletal pain, irrespective of body region. 
  1. Screen for biopsychosocial factors and health comorbidities. Notice this is #1 on their recommendations. If you’re just getting them in a pop a crack a lack and sending them on without this step, your results are going to be less than you or the patient desires. They say we need to communicate clearly with the patient to identify potential biopsychosocial drivers of the pain and then provide the therapy to fill that gap. These things include pain beliefs, emotional and coping responses to pain, social contest, physical and lifestyle factors and the presence of comorbidities. They recommend using the Orebro Musculoskeletal Pain Questionnaire. 
  2. Embrace patient-centered communication. This one is huge and this is one of the key things we learned in the Fellowship training for the neuromusculoskeletal medicine program. Clinicians should use open and reflective questioning to elicit the patient’s understanding of factors, which include the pain experience (tell me your story), causation beliefs (what do they think is the cause of the pain?), coping (what do you do when the pain increases?), impact (Tell me how your symptoms affect your ability to move and function), concerns (do your symptoms worry you?), beliefs (why do you think you shouldn’t bend/lift, or run?), social factors (tell me about your home life or work life), goals (what are you rgoals?), and expectations. Yes, to an extent, updated research and thinking has us behaving a bit like a psychologist I think. It’s not my favorite stuff. But, when you learn and consider how much pain is held in the brain due to these yellow flag indicators, then you start to realize that pain, certainly chronic pain, cannot just be treated at a peripheral source. You have to address the pain from a central sensitization perspective at least equally or you risk never being able to help these patients. 
  3. Educate beyond words using active learning approaches. doctors have to embrace education as a central part of patient care if we are going to change behavior. We have to dispel myths about pain, imaging findings, and activity engagement (for example, hurt does not equal harm). They say that behavioral learning like exercise therapy can be used to bust myths that are unhelpful. Myths and beliefs that lead to things like fear avoidance. 
  4. Coach towards self-management. A large portion of the chiropractic profession wants and desires patients to depend on them week after week, month after month and that’s just not real world stuff. And it’s not helpful for the patient’s recovery either. We should be empowering patients to engage in exercise, valued activities and a healthy lifestyle with confidence. Can you feel the difference here? “Mary, I know you’re only 35 but you already have some degenerative discs in your neck and I’m so concerned about it. This should be considered urgent and I’m going to need to see you 5 million times for the rest of your life.” Is that helpful or is this helpful? “Mary, I know you read on your rad report here that there is a finding of a degenerative disc in your neck but the truth is, that’s very common and not something you should be concerned with. Certainly not over-concerned with. I actually prefer the word ‘deconditioned’ over ‘degenerative.’ A good percentage of 30-40 year old patients have some mildly deconditioned discs but these rarely ever cause any issues. You’re young, you’re strong, and you’re healthy. We’re going to get everything moving correctly and then I’m going to give you some excellent exercises to really focus on the region and build plenty of support. You’re going to do great.” When you stack those two next to each other, it’s easy to see how harmful one is as opposed to the other more positive, more hopeful one. I got a little side tracked there, the point is, help them take control and self manage. Active amnagement relieves pain and improves function across pain conditions and health comorbidities. 
  5. Address comorbid health factors. They say clinicians should refer for co-care in teh presence of comorbid mental and physical health complaints like high levels of emotional distress, eating disorders, and type 2 diabetes. The authors say they contend that multidisciplinary care needs to be integrated, with consistent messages across the team to prevent care fragmentation and patient distress. 
Wrapping up the paper, the authors say Patient-centered care will optimize the value of healthcare provided. Shifting funding to support high-value evidence-based care options and educating society will be critical to enable this transition and will likely be cost-effective. Integrated cross-discipline clinical networds are required for effective co-care. We believe clinicians are ready to change, but they require the support of health systems and payers.  One word….two syllables. Day-um. You day-um right. But, health systems and payers are stuck on the part of our profession that doesn’t care about movement, function, yellow flags, exercise, or proper patient-centered practice. They’re stuck on the portion of our profession that is TIC or TOR or principled or whatever the hell useless drivel they’re using this week.  The hardcore, philosophy, doctor-centered, faith-based rather than evidence-based group of chiropractors are smaller but they’re so much louder. And dangerous. They’re flat-earthers. They’re the reason the evidence-based group will never reach any kind of cultural authority.  You can have a GROUP of guys and girls go through years of continuing education and maybe get a couple of diplomats in neuro or orthopedics or rehab….wahtever….and they can be the smartest chiropractor on the planet and almost 100% of their patients get well.  And then you have just ONE lowsy-ass guy or girl go and bait and switch just ONE patient into 80 visits in a year with a contract and all of the bells and stupid whistles of a doctor-centered practice, and that group that worked so so hard loses every ounce of legitimacy. Because of ONE jackhole that refuses to understand or read research or refuses to sacrifice some money in the interest of their patients well-being.  It’s gross. It’s awful. But it’s chiropractic. We are already looked at with a side-glance untrusting gaze. So any deviance of behavior that would be widely considered normal is magnified. Just one ruins the batch for all of us.  I remember a preacher once saying that you gain trust in drops but you lose it in buckets. The reality in chiropractic is that just one faith-based, doctor-centered jackhole loses trust in ALL chiropractors in buckets. For ALL of us.  My plea is to start sharing this podcast with your subluxation friends. Especially the young students that haven’t yet decided to be ‘principled.’ Maybe we can help lead them down the right path from the very start. The more people are exposed to the research and to the idea of being patient-centered, the more they’ll latch onto it. They have to. One is borderline evil, and the other is not. It’s backed by science. One destroys reputations for the sake of the dollar. One builds reputations and respect. One is built on ideas and theories over a century old that cannot or have not been proven while the other is backed by science and progress. How is it even a damn choice to begin with? We’re either a healthcare profession. Or we are a faith. True healthcare professions do research and then they do more and they change according to what works well and they drop the stuff that doesn’t, and on and on to the point of really being on the cutting edge of the science and on the health of our patients.  I’ll never understand how such a percentage of our profession can’t get on board with that. Whatever the answer to that question might be, it’s that answer that keeps us at the bottom of the cultural authority ladder.  Unfortunately, I don’t see if changing any time soon. Not until the governing boards decided it’s time to change once and for all.   Alright, that’s it. Y’all be safe. Continue taking care of yourselves and taking care of your neighbors. Tough times are upon us but, the sun will shine again. Trust it, believe it, count on it. Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week.  Key Takeaways Store Remember the evidence-informed brochures and posters at chiropracticforward.com.   
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The Message I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots. When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few. It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient. And, if the patient treats preventativly after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health! Key Point: At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints…. That’s Chiropractic! Contact Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show and tell us your suggestions for future episodes.  Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on podcast platforms.  We know how this works by now. If you value something, you have to share it, interact with it, review it, talk about it from time to time, and actively hit a few buttons to support it here and there when asked. It really does make a big difference.  Connect We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. Website
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