Texas Chiropractors Beat TMA & Smack Goliath In The Nose – w/ Dr. Tyce Hergert & Dr. Tom Hollingsworth

CF 168: Texas Chiropractors Beat TMA & Smack Goliath In The Nose

Today we’re going to talk about the state of the chiropractic profession in Texas and we’ll do a walkthrough of the case and court battle the Texas chiropractors just won. We’re going to be joined by two chiropractors with intimate knowledge and front row seats to the show through the years. But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music

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You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #168 Now if you missed last week’s episode , we talked about overcoming challenges. We talked about hip and knee osteoarthritis, and we talked about the risks for pain going from acute to chronic. Make sure you don’t miss that info. Keep up with the class. 

On the personal end of things…..

We talked about the challenges of my life last week. Well, then my pickup died on top of all of the rest of the list I laid out for you last week. So…..that’s fun.  Rolling with the punches. That’s what I’m doing here. Rolling with the punches. We have times in our lives when more is going on than really should be going on. Best we can do is just hold on tight, take the ride, and enjoy it when it all settles down a bit.  And it will most certainly settle down a little bit. For most people, life isn’t something we can just settle in the back row and watch from afar without involvement or participation. Which means, when your must partake, you will have times that are more hectic than others. This is that time. I don’t need a car payment right now with all of the other things I have going on.

But you know what; I’m not broke, business is coming back, and it’s all going to take care of itself. I just have to hold on and ride that ride. Maybe even try to smile here and there and find something to enjoy out of it. Who knows? But I’m damn sure on a ride currently. Better believe it. Speaking of a ride; my wife and I took a quick weekend out to Tampa Bay and Clearwater Florida last weekend. Nice trip. It wasn’t Key Largo which is where we went a year ago, just before the pandemic. But it was pretty. We stumbled right into Spring Break without knowing it so it was a bit too busy and tourist-y for our liking but it was gorgeous nonetheless.  So far, the retirement plan is taking us to Key Largo one of these days. On the flight back, they routed our plane through Las Vegas.

If you don’t know American geography, that is 4 time zones toward the west just to go back 2 time zoned back to the east just to get home. It was stupid. Well over 6 hours of flying on a trip that should have been around 3 hours of flying. Dumb.  Alright, let’s get on with it this week shall we?

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OK, before we bring our guests on, I want to introduce them to you. They have both been my close friends for years now. First I need to say that there are literally about 20 people that could or should be joining us on this podcast today. But then it would get disorganized and it would be a mess. I felt it was easier to keep it streamlined and simple so we could have a good, focused conversation. 

I’ll first tell you about Dr. Tom Hollingsworth.

Tom is the longest serving Board member for the Texas Chiropractic Association. Dr. Hollingsworth’s fingerprints are on all parts of what makes the TCA the TCA in 2021 not to mention, as you’ll hear momentarily, all over the defense the TCA helped the TBCE put up against the Texas Medical Association.

Dr. Hollingsworth practices in Corpus Christi, TX down on the Texas Gulf Coast at Beacon Chiropractic. Also, Tom was one of my first guests back when I first started this podcast over three years ago and I’m so happy to have him joining us again. http://www.beaconclinics.net

My second guest is Dr. Tyce Hergert. Tyce has been a guest two or three times on this podcast but it’s been a while. Dr. Hergert has been involved in the TCA for a lifetime it seems and it instrumental in getting yours truly active in the TCA as well. Tyce has served in lots of different capacities in the TCA culminating with his post as President where he was instrumental in guiding the TCA to 4 or 5 legislative wins during his term as well as steering the defense of this assault from the TMA. Tyce is the owner of Southlake Physical Medicine in Southlake, TX. http://southlakephysmed.com

Just to give you a brief history of my involvement, I was on the Board of Directors for the TCA when the case prior to this one was concluded. Which was about the time this latest assault was started. So, I was there for its beginnings. I was on the Board for about 4 or 5 years before moving through the ranks as the Chiropractic Development Initiative Chairman, the Pubic Relations Chairman, and now the Scientific Affairs Department Coordinator. So, while not knee deep in the trenches at all times, I’ve been there helping make promotional material, get the word out, and sweating and worrying with everyone else that really knew what was going on.  If you really knew what was going on, you would have been sweating as well. 

There are few folks on this planet that can speak on this case any better than our two guests today so let’s dive in shall we? Welcome, welcome, welcome, friends and colleagues…

First of all, how did everyone do with the Texas deep freeze that made the news world wide just a week or so ago?

Since our time is limited, let’s go ahead and jump right into the meat and taters here. I think we should start with the case we beat the TMA on just prior to this latest one. Who wants to describe that whole debacle?

Now, about the time that case wrapped up was about the time I very first heard the term VONT. I have to admit, I thought that was such a random little piddly thing that I did not give it much thought at all. I thought it would be a simple little whatever and would have little to zero impact on regular practicing chiropractors. What were your first thoughts on the VONT case in the very beginnings of it all?

A case that started with VONT had a way of morphing and transforming into all kinds of attacks, didn’t it? Tell us how that happened and what it meant?

Besides fighting the court case, what did chiropractors at the TCA do to fight this thing outside of the courtroom? Talk a little about the fundraising we all did. 

Can we stop just a second and let’s recognize some of the key players here from the TCA and the TBCE that really made the difference for Texas Chiropractors?

Talk about how the TCA was fighting this case in the Texas legislature. 

Now, we lost this case twice, right? Why do you think the two lower courts got it wrong? We know that it sure feels like Hurley just doesn’t like chiropractors. She’s been overruled on our cases at least twice that I know of. 

What could a loss have meant to not only Texas Chiropractors but also to chiropractors around the nation? Maybe globally?

Along with the crushing defeat the TMA suffered here, they had to pay all court costs and legal fees. Do we have a number on that yet? 

Tell me what you think this loss means to the TMA? Any idea of where their next attack might be?

Alright, that’s it.

Y’all be safe. Keep changing our profession from your little corner of the world. Keep taking care of yourselves and everyone around you. Tough times are upon us but, the sun will shine again. Trust it, believe it, count on it. Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week. 

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots. When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few. It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient. And, if the patient treats preventativly after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health!

Key Point: At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints…. That’s Chiropractic!

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About the Author & Host Dr. Jeff Williams – Fellow of the International Academy of Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine – Chiropractor in Amarillo, TX, Chiropractic Advocate, Author, Entrepreneur, Educator, Businessman, Marketer, and Healthcare Blogger & Vlogger

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