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Recognizing Cervical Artery Dissection

 CF 244: Recognizing Cervical Artery Dissection Today we’re going to talk about Recognizing Cervical Artery Dissection But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music  

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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun, profitable, and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around.  We’re the fun kind of research. Not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. We’re research talk over a couple of beers. I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.   If you haven’t yet I have a few things you should do. 

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You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #244 Now if you missed last week’s episode , we talked about Chiropractic Adjustments To Avoid Other Procedures & we talked about Male Vets With Chronic Pain. Make sure you don’t miss that info. Keep up with the class. 

On the personal end of things…..

Well, I just turned the big 50 people. It hurt a little. I’m not going to lie. I’ve always been one to really value and enjoy being young. I didn’t just go through it without appreciating my abilities and what I could do and accomplish.  I loved being an athlete and running and all of that good stuff. They say it’s just a number but that number is engrained in my joints and I feel it. Part of it is a weight thing.

Being 6’ 4” and 275 or so isn’t great for joints of the body so I’m on it. We’ll get that down. I’m determined.  So, 50 is blah for me but it’s over and it’s onward ho. I have too many irons in the file to be worrying about birthdays and all of that stuff. 

Business is pretty solid for back-to-school. It’s pretty steady. Which is surprising. I’m changing up some marketing in the near future and will share some of my experience on that. I’m a little nervous to dive more into marketing because if I’m honest, I’m at capacity as it is.  I saw 27 new patients last week. Just me. We had a total of about 180 visits and that’s just about as much as I can do. But with the type of marketing, we’re going to be trying, we’ll be more likely to only get the patients in here that we want to work with that are already fully committed and motivated.  We shall see. But for now, let’s get on with the research. We have some fun ones this week. 

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Item #1

This first and only one this week is getting some attention due to a recent artery dissection suffered by a woman in Georgia. Unfortunate for sure. I don’t know the particulars so we won’t go into that specifically but, when things like this happen, we start seeing more and more about the chiropractors cause stroke thing.  Typically, this isn’t true and there is a lot of research backing that up. I want to cover an article today that just came out called, “How to Recognize A Cervical Artery Dissection’ by James Demetrious, DC, DABCO (DABCO 2022) and published in PostGrad DC on July 18, 2022. Kaplowy! 

That’s hot!

Since this is an article, we’ll dispense with the traditional format and hit the high notes.  The arrticle highlights an excellent paper that came out not long ago that we covered here on the podcast. It’s by Chaibi et al (Chaibi A 2018) and was in the Annals of Medicine in 2019. In their paper, they cited high-quality research that affirms 

  • Manual therapy doesn’t no result in an increased risk of CAD
  • There is no strong evidence that manual therapy provokes CAD. 

Chaibi and Russell cite high-quality research to support these conclusions:

  • The rarity of CAD also makes the provision of epidemiological evidence challenging.
  • However, several extensive cohort studies and meta-analyses have found no excess risk of CAD resulting in secondary ischaemic stroke for chiropractic SMT compared to primary care. [2, 3, 4]
  • Similarly, retrospective cohort studies have reported no association with traumatic injury to the head or neck after SMT for neuromusculoskeletal pain.
  • Studies have disproven any misconception about whether SMT strains exceed failure strains.
  • No changes in blood flow or velocity in the VA of healthy young male adults were found in various head positions and during a cervical SMT.
  • Thus, these studies support the evidence of spontaneous causality or minimally suggest very low risk for serious AEs following SMT.

For my office, I try my best to minimize the risk to as close to zero as possible. If there is a young person in the office with unilateral neck pain for no reason, especially combined with a severe headache, they’re getting the inquisition, folks. I’m a research nerd and through my years of doing this podcast, I have compiled 19 questions that I feel can give us the best possible screen for CAD. Feel free to use them for yourself. They are as follows:

  • Is there any difference in upper arm strength from side to side?
  • Is there pain or numbness in one side of the face?
  • Can the patient raise both eyebrows equally?
  • Is there any difference in the size of the pupils?
  • Does the patient have an even smile?
  • Is the tongue straight when you have the patient stick it out?
  • Do they have a mostly even grip bilaterally?
  • Can they perform a resisted shoulder shrug evenly bilaterally?
  • Do you have a head pain or headache that developed suddenly and can be sharp or throbbing?
  • Do you have a headache that is worse when laying down?
  • Do you have difficulty speaking or swallowing?
  • Do you have any visual abnormalities?
  • Do you have unsteadiness or lack of coordination beyond what you consider normal?
  • Are you having any recent onset hiccups?
  • Are you having any hearing loss or pulsing tinnitus?
  • Are you having any nausea or vomiting?
  • Signs of nystagmus?
  • Any other neurological symptoms?
  • Do they have any light-headedness or fainting, disorientation, unexplained anxiety, disturbances in the ears, tremors, or sweating?

Now, if after all of those questions, you have accurately documented this complaint and should have a good direction forward. Most of the time, after the screen, I’m comfortable moving on. I’ve done my due diligence. However, I’m sure I’ve lost some patients over the years because if some of these are answered yes with no clear explanation for them, they’re getting an MR-A or a CT-A or I’m not working on them. Plain and simple.  I tell them my first job is to do no harm. My second job is to make them better.  Most appreciate it and are happy to do the imaging. 

So, there you go. If you’d like more information on why chiropractors are almost never solely responsible for CAD, I put together a very comprehensive and, I think, entertaining rundown of the information and I did it in various forms so that you could get the info however you like.  I put it in a blog on my website at chiropracticforward.com. The blog is called Debunked; The Odd Myth That Chiropractors Cause Strokes. The link can be found in the show notes right here at this point in the episode.  https://www.chiropracticforward.com/blog-post/debunked-the-odd-myth-that-chiropractors-cause-strokes-revisited/

I also have it in video form on YouTube with the same title   And just to be sure you could get the information in your preferred format, I made podcast episodes covering the same information in depth. The episodes of this podcast are Episodes 13, 14, and 15

I invite you to dive in a bit so you can be on top of it all. 

Alright, that’s it. Keep on keepin’ on. Keep changing our profession from your corner of the world. The world needs evidence-based, patient-centered practitioners driving the bus. The profession needs us in the ACA and involved in leadership of state associations. So quit griping about the profession if you’re doing nothing to make it better. Get active, get involved, and make it happen. Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week.  Store Remember the evidence-informed brochures and posters at chiropracticforward.com.   

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots. When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few. It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient. And, if the patient treats preventatively after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health!

Key Point: At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints…. That’s Chiropractic!

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About the Author & Host Dr. Jeff Williams – Fellow of the International Academy of Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine (FIANM) and Board Certified Diplomate of the American Board of Forensic Professionals (DABFP) – Chiropractor in Amarillo, TX, Chiropractic Advocate, Author, Entrepreneur, Educator, Businessman, Marketer, and Healthcare Blogger & Vlogger  

Bibliography

  • Chaibi A, R. M. (2018). “A risk-benefit assessment strategy to exclude cervical artery dissection in spinal manual-therapy: A comprehensive review.” Annals of Medicine.
  • DABCO, J. D. D. (2022). “How to Recognize a Cervical Artery Dissection?” PostGradDC.    

Adjusting Disc Herniations and Bulges

CF 135: Adjusting Disc Herniations and Bulges

Today we’re going to talk about Adjusting Disc Herniations and Bulges. Is this a good idea or a bad idea and what does the research have to say about it? But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music
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We’re the fun kind of research. Not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. We’re research talk over a couple of beers.

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You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #135

Now if you missed last week’s episode , we talked about the impact sleep can have on cardiovascular issues and we talked about what the profession of chiropractic can learn from the podiatry profession. There was a great discussion there I believe and great lessons we can learn. Why did podiatrists start at about the same time as chirorpactic but they’re so much more recognized, respected, and integrated compared to the chirorpactic profession? We talked about it. Make sure you don’t miss that info. Keep up with the class. 

Just so you know, all of the research we talk about in each episode is cited in the show notes for each episode if you’re looking to dive in a little deeper. 

On the personal end of things…..

Keepin on keepin on folks. That’s it. Staying in business. One day at a time. So far so good. I hope you found some use out of our discussion a couple episodes back about tactics myself and others are using to get those patients returning back to your office. I think I was able to share some valuable info in that regard. 

Dr. Blake Bennett posted in our private Facebook group saying, “We mailed a thousand letters to patients who were in in the past couple years and a couple weeks later we mailed another 500 postcards to patients who haven’t been in longer than that. Email every 2-3 weeks to those on the list. He says the response was great and June was a good month.”

Providing value and giving back. Thank you Dr. Bennett. I know others in need appreciate your advice as do I. 

Let’s get on with the reason for the topic today. I saw a post not long ago in the Forward Thinking Chiropractic Alliance where a colleague was asking if it’s OK to adjust segments where there is a confirmed disc herniation or bulge. It was refreshing to see a resounding YES from all of my colleagues. 

My answer was “Yes” as well. I’ve been through this from the back end though and I’ll share some of that story with you. It’s a story I’m not happy about, I’m not proud of, and I’m not happy revisiting. It was a hard time in my life to be honest. But, it’s part of my story regardless so here goes.

Many moons ago I treated A LOT of personal injury cases. We all know some of those patients are better than others. This was not one of the great patients but she was fine. No big issues. She had a disc injury and I diagnosed it appropriately I’ll have you know. 

Now something to know about me; I’m all about gentle motion. I don’t like it when someone cranks my noggin around just looking for that crack sound. I’m not interested in that and I treat people the way I want to be treated. I’m very gentle, non-agressive, use little to zero rotation in the cervical area, and just won’t be rough with it. 

Same went for this lady. And, like so many other patients, she responded well. I tracked her from the beginning where she was having pain 75% of the time down to a much lower rating on the numeric rating scale and only about 25% of the time. She was happy, I was happy and all was gleeful in the land of daily practice. 

Until…..until her daughter attended an appointment with her one day. She came in with her just up in arms and actually screaming at me because I had the audacity to work on her mother when she had a disc herniation and clear mention of the disc herniation on her MRI report. 

I asked her if she’d ever been to a chiropractor before or knew anything about chiropractic. She had not. She knew nothing about what we do or why we do it. So, I tried to explain briefly and tell her how her mother was doing so much better and how she had improved, blah, blah, blah. Didn’t matter. She didn’t know anything but she knew enough to be straight up pissed the hell off that I’d ever work with her mother with that disc herniation. 

It made for an interesting day for sure. But not as interesting as the day I received notice from my state’s governing board that they had received a complaint on me from this patient. While it had this patient’s name on the complaint, it should have had the daughter’s name on it because the patient and I had a good relationship. 

So, no matter how good the notes were, no matter how well I tracked the improvement, guess what? I STILL had to hire an attorney to defend me to my own Board. Now, it’s important to understand that the Board isn’t here for us. They’re stated goal is to protect the interest of the public when it comes to chiropractors. Let’s be fair, they see the worst of the worst. Literally. They can, after some time, become a bit jaded and maybe even start to actually EXPECT the worst when they get a complaint. 

I literally could not believe I had to take two days off of work, fly to Austin, TX, get a hotel, and defend myself against something that was so black and white. But again, let’s be fair, the folks at the TBCE weren’t there. They didn’t witness what I saw. They didn’t see the happiness of the patient with her improvement. They weren’t there when we just did manual mobilization rather than agressive adjustments. I can’t blame them. It was the process and I had to go through it. Right or wrong. And trust me, if you’ve listened to this podcast long enough honesty is big with me. This was wrong. It should have never gotten beyond the initial complaint. But whatever. I went to Austin. 

Now, one of my colleagues and friends was on the enforcement committee and she asked me some straight forward questions with the attorney sitting there. I don’t know why the hell he was even there other than to collect a check because he didn’t say a damn thing or do a damn thing. 

This was before I went through a diplomate but after going through Croft’s Whiplash Biomechanics and Traumatology course. What I’m saying is I’m better today than I was back then but I was far from being a slacker back then. I answered all of the questions, walked out, and the attorney told me what a great job I did and then we waited. 

I ended up getting a warning but nothing on my record. No action taken against me. I was pissed then and am still pissed that I’d get a warning for anything at all. I didn’t deserve a warning. It wasn’t warranted because I didn’t do anything wrong. 

Now, the reason for that story for a couple of reasons. First, I want you to understand the value of documentation. Had I not had the documentation showing the improvement of this patient over her treatment, I would have been absolute toast based solely on the word of a patient’s daughter. A person that has never been to a chiropractor and knows nothing about the profession. That’s number one. So documentation people; don’t just document to remember what you did. Document to protect yourself and your staff. It sucks but you have to do it. 

The second reason I told that story is that this experience led me to start looking up research on discs and adjusting. Was I actually wrong and I just didn’t know it? I went searching for the answers because if I were to keep adjusting people, you damn well better believe that I’m going to be adjusting people with discs that many times are herniated or bulging. That’s either knowingly doing it and most times unknowingly doing it. 

Hell, we know that 60% of patients between the ages of 40 and 50 years old have disc findings that are completely asymptomatic. No pain at all. Still, when you’re adjusting a 40 – 50 year old, you have a 60% chance of adjusting someone with a bulge or herniation. So it made sense to me to protect myself from ever running into this crap again down the road. 

If I had those paper in front of me when I went in there to defend myself, maybe I don’t even get a warning. But, if someone is sitting on the enforcement and questioning concerning adjusting areas with disc issues, they need to be on top of that research as well. And they might have been. I don’t know. All of the folks at the TBCE have become well thought of friends and colleagues now that I’ve been active in the Texas Chiropractic Association for so many years. Not the case at the time though. I only knew one of them back then. Even though there’s been a turnover since this happened many moons ago, I’m still friends with even the new TBCE crew and they’re all highly respected and thought of by me. Good good people just trying to do a good job. 

Anyway, We’re going to go through some papers here for you so you can get a clear picture on this topic. 

Item #1

OK, Item #1 this week is called “Manipulation or microdiskectomy for sciatica? A prospective randomized clinical study” by McMorland, et. al. publshed in the Journal of Manipulative Physiological Therapeutics in October of 2010(McMorland G 2010). 

Why They Did It

The purpose of this study was to compare the clinical efficacy of spinal manipulation against microdiskectomy in patients with sciatica secondary to lumbar disk herniation (LDH).

How They Did It

  • 121 patients were in the study
  • Patients had to have failed at least 3 months of nonoperative management like analgesics, lifestyle modification, physiotherapy, massage, or acupuncture. 
  • They were randomized to either surgical microdiskectomy or standardized chiropractic spinal manipulation
  • Patients could opt to crossover to the other treatment after 3 months

What They Found

Significant improvement in both treatment groups compared to baseline scores over time was observed in all outcome measures. After 1 year, follow-up intent-to-treat analysis did not reveal a difference in outcome based on the original treatment received

Wrap It Up

“Sixty percent of patients with sciatica who had failed other medical management benefited from spinal manipulation to the same degree as if they underwent surgical intervention. Of 40% left unsatisfied, subsequent surgical intervention confers excellent outcome. Patients with symptomatic LDH failing medical management should consider spinal manipulation followed by surgery if warranted.”

Who does this not make perfect sense to? Well….besides my patient’s daughter that is? Oh, and just about any medical physician you can find. I just don’t know how they haven’t latched onto this research yet. Honestly. 

Before we get to the next paper, I want to tell you a little about this new tool on the market called Drop Release. If you’re into IASTM also known as instrument assisted soft tissue manipulation, then it’s your new best friend. Heck if you’re just into getting more range of motion in your patients, then it’s your new best friend. 

Drop Release is a revolutionary tool that harnesses the body’s built-in protective systems to make muscles relax quickly and effectively.  This greatly reduces time needed for soft tissue treatment, leaving more time for other treatments per visit, or more patients per day.

It’s inventor, Dr. Chris Howson, from the great state state of North Dakota has is a listener and friend. He offered our listeners a great discount on his product. When you order, if you put in the code ‘HOTSTUFF’ all one word….as in hot stuff….coming up!! If you enter HOTSTUFF in the coupon code area, Dr. Howson will give you $50 off of your purchase. 

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Item #2

This is a great one here called “Outcomes From Magnetic Resonance Imaging–Confirmed Symptomatic Cervical Disk Herniation Patients Treated With High-Velocity, Low-Amplitude Spinal Manipulative Therapy: A Prospective Cohort Study With 3-Month Follow-Up” by Peterson et. al. published in the Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics in August of 2013(Peterson C 2013). 

Why They Did It

The purpose of this study was to investigate outcomes of patients with cervical radiculopathy from cervical disk herniation (CDH) who are treated with spinal manipulative therapy.

How They Did It

  • 50 Adult Swiss patients with neck pain and dermatomal arm pain; sensory, motor, or reflex changes corresponding to the involved nerve root; and at least 1 positive orthopaedic test for cervical radiculopathy were included.
  • Magnetic resonance imaging–confirmed CDH linked with symptoms was required.
  • Baseline data included 2 pain numeric rating scales (NRSs), for neck and arm, and the Neck Disability Index (NDI). At 2 weeks, 1 month, and 3 months after initial consultation, patients were contacted by telephone, and the NDI, NRSs, and patient’s global impression of change data were collected
  • High-velocity, low-amplitude spinal manipulations were administered by experienced doctors of chiropractic.
  • Acute vs subacute/chronic patients’ NRSs and NDIs were compared using the Mann-Whitney U test.

What They Found

  • At 2 weeks, 55.3% were “improved,” 68.9% at 1 month and 85.7% at 3 months.
  • Statistically significant decreases in neck pain, arm pain, and NDI scores were noted at 1 and 3 months compared with baseline scores
  • Of the subacute/chronic patients, 76.2% were improved at 3 months.

Wrap It Up

Most patients in this study, including subacute/chronic patients, with symptomatic magnetic resonance imaging–confirmed CDH treated with spinal manipulative therapy, reported significant improvement with no adverse events.

Item #3

This one is from Bergmann, et. al. and published in the Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics in 1998 called “Manipulative therapy in lower back pain with leg pain and neurological deficit.(Bergmann TF 1998)”

Why They Did It

To discuss a case of sciatica associated with lower back pain that originates in a disc. We discuss the use of manipulative therapy as a conservative approach and compare it with other conservative methods and with surgery.

How They Did It

  • The patient suffered from lower back and left leg pain that had increased in severity over a 6-day period. There was decreased sensation in the dorsum of the left foot and toes. Computed tomography demonstrated the presence of a small, contained disc herniation.
  • The patient was initially treated with ice followed by flexion-distraction therapy. This was used over the course of her first three visits. Once she was in less pain, side posture manipulation was added to her care. Nine treatments were required before she was released from care.

Wrap It Up

“We need a nonsurgical, conservative approach to treat lower back pain with sciatica as an alternative to and before beginning the more aggressive, and potentially hazardous, surgical treatment. There is some support for the idea that lumbar disc herniation with neurological deficit and radicular pain does not contraindicate the judicious use of manipulation. there is ample evidence to suggest that a course of conservative care, including spinal manipulation, should be completed before surgical consult is considered.”

Item #4

The last one we’ll cover here is called “Spinal manipulation in the treatment of patients with MRI-confirmed lumbar disc herniation and sacroiliac joint hypomobility: a quasi-experimental study” by Shokri et. al and published in Chiropractic and Manual Therapies in May of 2018(Shokri E 2018).

Why They Did It

To investigate the effect of lumbar and sacroiliac joint (SIJ) manipulation on pain and functional disability in patients with lumbar disc herniation (LDH) concomitant with SIJ hypomobility.

How They Did It

  • Twenty patients aged between 20 and 50 years with MRI-confirmed LDH who also had SIJ hypomobility participated in the trial in 2010.
  • Patients who had sequestrated disc herniation were excluded
  • All patients received five sessions of spinal manipulative therapy (SMT) for the SIJ and lumbar spine during a 2-week period. 
  • back and leg pain intensity and functional disability level were measured with a numerical rating scale (NRS) and the Oswestry Disability Index (ODI) at baseline, immediately after the 5th session, and 1 month after baseline.

What They Found

A significantly greater mean improvement in back and leg pain was observed in the 5th sessions and 1 month after SMT

Wrap It Up

Five sessions of lumbar and SIJ manipulation can potentially improve pain and functional disability in patients with MRI-confirmed LDH and concomitant SIJ hypomobility.

There are more but I don’t want this episode to be an hour long. If I have a patient with a hot disc, I don’t typically adjust on day one. We focus on getting the patient moving. We sit them on a theraball and have them move their hips in circles, front to back, side to side, figure eights, and whatever other way we can think of. Most have a direction of preference that is in trunk extenstion. If this is right for the patient, we will do extension bias exercises. 

We make sure they are keeping their low back nice and stiff, neutral, and strong in every movement they make. We make sure they know what position to sleep in. We stress the importance of not laying down and hoping it goes away. Rather than that, they really need to be walking and doing the exercises. If they have people that just underwent surgery walking the next day, then doesn’t that same concept make sense for discs? Well of course it does. They typically come back the next day with the pain reduced enough to be able to do some light mobilization on the low back. I am careful to not be agressive and to not put an extreme amount of rotation into the spine. We want movement but we also want the spine as straight, strong, and neurtal as possible. 

Make sure you have schooled them on this concept. Tell them to make sure they behave like they have a long flourescent light bulb taped to their back and their job is to not break it. If you can remove the triggers that caused the pain, it’ll go a long way toward their recovery. 

Alright, that’s it. Y’all be safe. Keep changing the world and our profession from your little corner of the world. Continue taking care of yourselves and taking care of your neighbors. Tough times are upon us but, the sun will shine again. Trust it, believe it, count on it.

Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week. 

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few.

It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient.

And, if the patient treats preventativly after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health!

Key Point:

At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints….

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show and tell us your suggestions for future episodes. 

Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on podcast platforms. 

We know how this works by now. If you value something, you have to share it, interact with it, review it, talk about it from time to time, and actively hit a few buttons to support it here and there when asked. It really does make a big difference. 

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We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward.

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About the Author & Host

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Bibliography

  • Bergmann TF, J. B. (1998). “Manipulative therapy in lower back pain with leg pain and neurological deficit.” J Manipulative Physiol Ther 21(4): 288-294.
  • McMorland G (2010). “Manipulation or microdiskectomy for sciatica? A prospective randomized clinical study.” J Manipulative Physiol Ther 33(8): 576-584.
  • Peterson C, e. a. (2013). “Outcomes from magnetic resonance imaging — confirmed symptomatic cervical disk protrusion patients treated with high-velocity, low-amplitude spinal manipulative therapy: a prospective cohort study with 3-month follow-up.” J Manipulative Physiol Ther 36(8): 461-467.
  • Shokri E, K. F., Sinaei E, Ghafarinejad F, (2018). “Spinal manipulation in the treatment of patients with MRI-confirmed lumbar disc herniation and sacroiliac joint hypomobility: a quasi-experimental study.” Chiropr Man Therap 26(16).

 

 

w/ Dr. Michael Massey – Doing Things Right, Medicolegal Thoughts, and How We Better Protect Ourselves

CF 124: w/ Dr. Michael Massey – Doing Thing Right, Medicolegal Thoughts, and How We Better Protect Ourselves Today we’re joined by Dr. Michael Massey. We’re going to talk about What We chiropractors Are Doing Wrong, we’ll talk about Medicolegal things, and we’ll talk about How chiropractors can go about Better Protecting Ourselves But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music  
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  OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun, profitable, and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around.  We’re the fun kind of research. Not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. We’re research talk over a couple of beers. I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.   If you haven’t yet I have a few things you should do. 
  • Like our Facebook page, 
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Do it do it do it.  You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #124 Now if you missed last week’s episode, we talked about the primary spinal practitioner program, gabapentin, and cervical curvatures. Make sure you don’t miss that info. Keep up with the class.  While we’re on the topic of being smart, did you know that you can use our website as a resource? Quick and easy, you can go to chiropracticforward.com, click on Episodes, and use the search function to find whatever you want quickly and easily. With over 100 episodes in the tank and an average of 2-3 papers covered per episode, we have somewhere between 250 and 300 papers that can be quickly referenced along with their talking points.  Just so you know, all of the research we talk about in each episode is cited in the show notes for each episode if you’re looking to dive in a little deeper.  On the personal end of things….. Before we get to our guest this week, I did a thing Being an evidence-informed practitioner can present a set of problems at times. Mostly problems with regard to patient volume because we don’t typically treat a patient with long-term recommendations. So we see them come and go depending on if they hurt or not. It can lead to lulls, disappointment, and boredom if there’s not a steady stream of new patients coming through your pearly gates each and every month. I have taken various courses over the years at Udemy so when I decided to create a course, I immediately thought Udemy would be a good place to start.  While I’m still building the course and adding content every week, it’s live and ready to go for those interested in getting started. I’m putting the link to the course at this point in the show notes. https://www.udemy.com/course/marketing-evidence-based-chiropractic/?referralCode=36A4D91C66B48300360B Over the last two years or so, I’ve averaged almost 80 new patients every month as a solo practitioner. If you’re interested, I created, basically, my playbook for marketing and my thoughts on each topic or technique. I also have created downloads, checklists, and examples to show what my stuff looks like.  Just go to udemy.com and do a search on Marketing An Evidence-Based Chiropractic Practice and check it out. It will grow and expand in the coming months and if you get just one patient from the ideas shared in it, it paid for itself. Now imagine if you get a bunch….well then it’s priceless. udemy.com and the course is called Marketing and Evidence-based Chiropractic Practice.  I usually drop some personal thoughts and updates on the clinic and things like that. When we have a guest join me on the show, I typically drop that section and just get on with it. It’s no different today. So, let’s get on with it.  Today we are joined by Dr. Michael Massey who hails from the great state of Tennessee. Athens, TN to be exact with is just Northeast of Chattanooga.  Dr. Michael Massey has been in private practice for nearly 30 years and is no stranger to the inner workings of insurance companies or the creation and administration of regulations.  He has worked in and around commercial and federal insurance carriers for most of his time in practice, serving as a liaison, a consultant, and a contracted employee.   He is also a certified coder, a certified healthcare quality manager, and a quality assurance/utilization review diplomate.  He has additionally served as the president of his state chiropractic association, a delegate to the American Chiropractic Association, the chairman of the ACA Coding and Reimbursement Committee, and as a 10-year member of his state Board of Chiropractic Examiners, while simultaneously serving as a delegate to both the Federation of Chiropractic Licensing Boards and the National Board of Chiropractic Examiners.   He also regularly serves as a nationally-sought expert witness for malpractice and insurance fraud cases.  This diverse experience offers him a unique perspective and a comprehensive skill set to speak on insurance matters, coding, documentation, HIPAA, Medicare, compliance, personal injury, and risk management. Welcome to the show Dr. Massey. May I call you Mike or Michael? Now, first question is, how are you enjoying this grand global pandemic we’re currently blessed with? I have been to Nashville a few times but only recall going through Chattanooga one time when I was on a family vacation back when I was a freshman in high school. I recall it being one of the most beautiful areas I’d ever seen and, from what I remember, I’d probably still classify it that way. I did a little research on Athens, TN. It appears the population is 13,458 hoomans. My region is about 280,000 for comparison sake. What’s it like practicing in a small-town setting where you only have that many to draw from for new patients? Or are you close enough to Chattanooga that you can draw off of their population as well? We met through the miracles of the private Facebook group called the Forward Thinking Chiropractic Alliance. You are typically pretty active in the group and then we met face to face at the Forward ’19 event out in St. Louis back in September. You were teaching a class on Documentation with Dr. Greg Friedman.  I love the group. I’m active here and there, I’ve joined the membership, I support the group. I see the value for sure. While I’m minimally active, I have learned a lot from others just by lurking a little. OK….lurking a lot. What would you say you’ve found to be your biggest takeaway from the FTCA group? What’s been the big bang for the buck for you with it? Documentation is not typically something finds much fascination in but you guys did a good job taking a dry subject and communicating the information in a way that was interesting.  Coding and documentation, for me, can be like pouring salt or maybe hot sauce in my eyeballs. I find it displeasing in general. So, what on Earth got you into coding and documentation? Why is that, of all things, your wheelhouse? From a procedural coding perspective, what are the most common mistakes made by chiropractors?  How about from a diagnostic coding perspective? I don’t know how other states are but here in TX, we have to have 4 hours of medicare, ethics, and documentation every year. Required hours. I think it’s insane to force grown professionals to do this when we could be learning how to take better care of our patients. I can see maybe every other year or every 5 years as a refresher. But I’m not down with every year. What’s your view on this? Relative to clinical documentation, what are the top two or three nuggets of advice you’d offer to both newer doctors as well as those who have been in practice for a while? You’ve had a good bit of experience working with insurance companies, can you offer some insight into their perception of our profession?  Where do they seem to believe we fit best in the system?  What are their primary concerns or frustrations with us? Now we collaborated briefly on a case you were working on recently having to do with stroke. I believe you were defending a chiro if I’m not mistaken. How’d it turn out? Did the good guys win the day? When we’re talking about risk management, as we just mentioned, you have experience doing expert witness work for malpractice cases. Is there any consistency in the types of lawsuits you’re seeing?  Are the allegations typically similar?  Are there specific things chiropractors do/don’t do that seem to trigger lawsuits? How did you get into the med/legal work?  How do you prepare to be a good witness? What are a few critical risk management tips you wish every chiropractor knew? Let’s talk about something I know is near and dear to you and you’ve been putting together for a while now. Pretty much since we first traded private messages through Facebook. It’s called Practice Mechanics and it’s something you’ve put together with Dr. Rob Pape out in California.  Rob is another very active member and moderator with the FTCA group. I talk a lot about FTCA on this podcast. I should push my private group as much as I push FTCA. Lol. But there are less in my private group and the FTCA members are way more active.  Anyway, Rob is like the jedi ninja dude in there and always has an interesting take on whatever the post of the day happens to be. Tell me about Practice Mechanics, tell me about teaming up with Rob on this project, and give us some clue of who it would be good for, where it’s at, and where it’s going? What’s the big picture? We’re going to link the Practice Mechanics website at this point in the show notes at chiropracticforward.com so you can go find out more about it. https://www.practice-mechanics.com Thanks for coming on the show with us, Dr. Massey.  Alright, that’s it. Y’all be safe. Continue taking care of yourselves and taking care of your neighbors. Tough times are upon us but, the sun will shine again. Trust it, belive it, count on it. Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week.  Key Takeaways Store Remember the evidence-informed brochures and posters at chiropracticforward.com. 
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Integrating Chiropractors

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The Message I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots. When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few. It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient. And, if the patient treats preventativly after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health! Key Point: At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints…. That’s Chiropractic! Contact Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show and tell us your suggestions for future episodes.  Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on podcast platforms.  We know how this works by now. If you value something, you have to share it, interact with it, review it, talk about it from time to time, and actively hit a few buttons to support it here and there when asked. It really does make a big difference.  Connect We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. Website
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Social Media Links https://www.facebook.com/chiropracticforward/ Chiropractic Forward Podcast Facebook GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1938461399501889/ Twitter YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtc-IrhlK19hWlhaOGld76Q iTunes https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/chiropractic-forward-podcast-chiropractors-practicing/id1331554445?mt=2 Player FM Link https://player.fm/series/2291021 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-chiropractic-forward-podcast-chiropractors-practicing-through TuneIn https://tunein.com/podcasts/Health–Wellness-Podcasts/The-Chiropractic-Forward-Podcast-Chiropractors-Pr-p1089415/ About the Author & Host Dr. Jeff Williams – Chiropractor in Amarillo, TX, Chiropractic Advocate, Author, Entrepreneur, Educator, Businessman, Marketer, and Healthcare Blogger & Vlogger