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w/ Dr. Chris Howson: Chiropractors In Hospitals & Drop Release

CF 140: w/ Dr. Chris Howson:  Chiropractors In Hospitals & Drop Release

Today we’re going to be joined by Dr. Chris Howson of the great state of North Dakota where we’ll be talking about chiropractic integration in a hospital setting as well as his new invention called Drop Release. 

But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music

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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun, profitable, and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around. 

We’re the fun kind of research. Not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. We’re research talk over a couple of beers.

I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.  

If you haven’t yet I have a few things you should do. 

  • Like our Facebook page, 
  • Join our private Facebook group and interact, and then 
  • go review our podcast on iTunes and other podcast platforms. 
  • We also have an evidence-based brochure and poster store at chiropracticforward.com
  • While you’re there, join our weekly email newsletter. No spam, just a reminder when the newest episodes go live. Nothing special so don’t worry about signing up. Just one a week friends. Check your JUNK folder!!

Do it do it do it. 

You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #140

Now if you missed last week’s episode , we talked about chiropractors affected by COVID, 2019 opioid overdoses, and insurnace compensation for chiropractic. Make sure you don’t miss that info. Keep up with the class. 

While we’re on the topic of being smart, did you know that you can use our website as a resource? Quick and easy, you can go to chiropracticforward.com, click on Episodes, and use the search function to find whatever you want quickly and easily. With over 100 episodes in the tank and an average of 2-3 papers covered per episode, we have somewhere between 250 and 300 papers that can be quickly referenced along with their talking points. 

Just so you know, all of the research we talk about in each episode is cited in the show notes for each episode if you’re looking to dive in a little deeper. 

On the personal end of things…..

I am writing this on 8/17/20 which means I’m taking my son to college this afternoon for his freshman year. It’s my first kid to fly the coop and we’ll see how it goes. Many of you did this same thing years ago. Many of you don’t even have kids so I won’t dwell on it long. 

I’ll just say, especially to the young ones, there’s no time to waste. Whether it’s starting your own retirement account, starting your kids a college fund, or asking that girl on a date. There’s no time to waste because landmarks like I’m going through this week…..they arrive before you know it. Almost by surprise even. 

Before you know it, you’ll look up and you’ve been in business 20 years, your kids are graduating, you looking at retirement in the next 10-15 years and you don’t know exactly how it all happened. But it did and if you’re not a forethinker, it’ll punch you square in the nose and make your eyes cross. 

Just a word from your wise ol’ Uncle Jeffro. 

I don’t want to talk too much because we have a guest today. Before we welcome him, I want to do a proper introduction. 

  • 2004 graduate of Northwestern. 
  • Practicing in Grand Forks ND, 
  • has spent the last 9 years in an integrated practice setting. 
  • Has a strong background in sports and applies that “get em back on the field” mentality to all his patients.  
  • Member of FTCA, NDCA, and ACA.   
  • Currently pursuing the orthopedic diplomate.  
  • Inventor of the Drop Release.

Tell me a little bit about yourself and your family.

I always say that chiropractic isn’t something that immediately comes to mind when one is deciding what they want to be when they grow up. So how did you come to be a chiropractor?

Where did you go to school?

What in your background or your schooling best prepared you for your current practice setting? Did you have any mentors that were particularly impactful along the way?

We have talked at length on this podcast about integrating into the Federally Qualified Health Centers or FQHCs but your situation is a little bit different. Can you explain what you’re doing and how you got there? And how it’s different from an FQHC.

What kind of patient is your typical patient in the hospital setting? Are you just confined to acute low back or what? 

Have you had any issues or had to stand your ground when it came to those in the medical field that don’t necessarily love the chiropractic profession? 

Numbers

Do you see your model as something that can be repeated in TX, NC, CA, to Florida? And how? How could those interested start on the path you’re blazing up in ND?

Do you see your current way of practicing as your life long way or do you have plans to be in the private sector down the line?

So, we get along very well because we are both go getters and entrepreneurs. If people have been listening, lately, I’ve been giving them a code for a discount on a new little invention called Drop Release. You happen to be the inventor of Drop Release. I actually first met you in person at the Forward ’19 event in St. Louis when you were working your Drop Release exhibit booth. Tell us all how you came up with the idea. How did you take it from concept to reality? That’s the biggest hurdle most folks don’t get over. 

We might as well give them the code to save some money on Drop Release if they want one, don’t you think?

Thanks for joining us, Chris. I appreciate it. 

Alright, that’s it. Y’all be safe. Keep changing the world and our profession from your little corner of the world. Continue taking care of yourselves and taking care of your neighbors. Tough times are upon us but, the sun will shine again. Trust it, believe it, count on it.

Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week. 

Key Takeaways

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few.

It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient.

And, if the patient treats preventativly after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health!

Key Point:

At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints….

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show and tell us your suggestions for future episodes. 

Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on podcast platforms. 

We know how this works by now. If you value something, you have to share it, interact with it, review it, talk about it from time to time, and actively hit a few buttons to support it here and there when asked. It really does make a big difference. 

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We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward.

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w/ Dr. Aric Frisina-Deyo – Chiropractors In An FQHC Setting & Setting The Bar High Early On

CF 137: w/ Dr. Aric Frisina-Deyo – Chiropractors In An FQHC Setting & Setting The Bar High Early On

 Today we’re going to be joined by Aric Frisina-Deyo. We’re going to discuss the ins and outs of working in an FQHC. You’ve heard us talk about it before with Dr. James Lehman. How do you do it, what can you expect out of it, and what does it look like? But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music

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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun, profitable, and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around.  We’re the fun kind of research. Not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. We’re research talk over a couple of beers. I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.   If you haven’t yet I have a few things you should do. 

  • Like our Facebook page, 
  • Join our private Facebook group and interact, and then 
  • go review our podcast on iTunes and other podcast platforms. 
  • We also have an evidence-based brochure and poster store at chiropracticforward.com
  • While you’re there, join our weekly email newsletter. No spam, just a reminder when the newest episodes go live. Nothing special so don’t worry about signing up. Just one a week friends. Check your JUNK folder!!

Do it do it do it. 

You have found yourself smack dab in the middle of Episode #137

Now if you missed last week’s episode, we talked about adjustments making a person stronger, providing more endurance, and providing improved balance. We talked about new evidence on muscle relaxers, and we talked about the best recovery posture after some intense training. Find out if it’s better to recover having your hands on your knees or standing up with your hands behind your head like we’ve been taught over the years. Make sure you don’t miss that info. Keep up with the class. 

While we’re on the topic of being smart, did you know that you can use our website as a resource? Quick and easy, you can go to chiropracticforward.com, click on Episodes, and use the search function to find whatever you want quickly and easily. With over 100 episodes in the tank and an average of 2-3 papers covered per episode, we have somewhere between 250 and 300 papers that can be quickly referenced along with their talking points.  Just so you know, all of the research we talk about in each episode is cited in the show notes for each episode if you’re looking to dive in a little deeper. 

On the personal end of things….. So far, so good. Staying steady, healthy, and strong. No big drop-offs in business but no big growth beyond our 80% mark either. Like I said last week, 80% is my new normal for now and, if that’s my new cap, then it’s time to simply start comparing my weekly numbers to the 80% mark and just continue growing and comparing to that.  Basically, my 80% is what I’m now accepting as my new 100% if that makes sense. That’s my roof or my ceiling. I have stopped comparing my numbers currently to the numbers of last year or the numbers of pre-COVID.

It’s not fair to me or my employees. Like it or hate it, there is a new normal for now and for the foreseeable future and I’m living and operating in that world for now.  That just makes more sense to me. Otherwise, I’m trying to reach a bar that is very difficult to reach and I think I’ll be perpetually frustrated and nobody’s got time for that.

So, I’m comparing my numbers to last week’s numbers and last month’s numbers. It just makes more sense.  I have a new assistant taking care of the Chiropractic Forward website. You’ll have to go check it out here and there. She’s in the process of updating the Store link where we have evidence-based patient education brochures and brand new posters for your offices.  Just go to chiropracticforward.com and click on the Store link while you’re there. Maybe sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you’re at it. No spam, just a weekly reminder on Thursdays when the new episodes go live. That’s it. 

Introduction Alright, let’s get on with the show and introduce our guest today. Today we’re joined by Dr. Aric Frisina-Deyo. Being in only his second year of practice, Aric was wondering why I’d be interested in his story. Well, it’s simple, he is integrated into and working for an FQHC. Meaning, he’s already functioning at the top of the game and I want to know about it. 

I’m guessing if I want to know about it, many of you would like to know about it.  First, you may think your area doesn’t have an FQHC and for the most part, you’re probably wrong. Just pull out your Google machine and type in ‘FQHC and the area you live in’. See what it pulls up. Dr. James Lehman pulled that one on me when I told him I didn’t think my area had any.

Well, turns out we had two of them and I had no idea. One more in the win column for Dr. Lehman.  What is an FQHC, you might ask? It stands for Federally Qualified Health Center. If you have listened to either of the episodes we have had with Dr. James Lehman from the Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine Diplomate of the University of Bridgeport.    to start the second year of the three year Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine Residency through the University of Bridgeport. Very active while a student holding numerous positions in clubs and student government, Aric was able to take MDT and MPI which, along with this schooling, has helped to shape his practice style.

He is currently providing care to underserved populations in New Britain, Danbury and Clinton, CT in Federally Qualified Health Centers in a multidisciplinary setting alongside MDs, DOs, APRNs, PAs, Podiatrists, Dentists, Dieticians, other Allied Health Professionals. Aric is also working toward his diplomate in Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine and has had the privilege to assist in instruction for the orthopedic and neurological examination labs at UBSC. When not treating patients, studying or moderating FTCA, Aric can be found spending time with his wife and two children. He has already co-authored 6 research publications. 

So let’s welcome Aric to the show thank you for joining us today. 

Tell us where you are located and a little about the area if you don’t mind. 

Before we get to the FQHC’s, tell me a bit about your journey to becoming a chiropractor. I always say that it’s not the first thing that comes to mind when most kids are deciding what they want to be when they grow up. 

Tell me about where you attended college and your unique experience there that has led to your position and the current practice environment.   

Is there an advantage to being a resident in an FQHC? Explain the pros and cons of your experience. 

Do you evaluate or see many chronic pain patients?

Do your patients tend to present with many co-morbidities or are they usually just spinal pain.

If so, how do you manage the co-morbidities?

Do you care for many high-impact chronic patients with disabilities? And…..for our audience, can you explain the difference between high-impact chronic pain and run-of-the-mill chronic pain?

Tell us about your experience working with and interacting with your medical field counterparts there at the FQHC. 

Do you see the FQHC being your preferred practice setting going forward or is a private practice in your future?

Before we wrap up here, I met you through Dr. Kris Anderson up in North Dakota. He’s been a previous guest on our podcast. He has suggested you have something working with dry needling research. Can you share some of that information with us?

Alright, that’s it. Y’all be safe. Keep changing the world and our profession from your little corner of the world. Continue taking care of yourselves and taking care of your neighbors. Tough times are upon us but, the sun will shine again. Trust it, believe it, count on it. Let’s get to the message. Same as it is every week.  Store Remember the evidence-informed brochures and posters at chiropracticforward.com.   

Chiropractic evidence-based products

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The Message I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment rather than chemical treatments like pills and shots. When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain to name just a few. It’s safe and cost-effective can decrease surgeries & disability and we do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient. And, if the patient treats preventativly after initial recovery, we can usually keep it that way while raising the overall level of health!

Key Point: At the end of the day, patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment that offers the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints…. That’s Chiropractic!

Contact Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show and tell us your suggestions for future episodes.  Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on podcast platforms.  We know how this works by now. If you value something, you have to share it, interact with it, review it, talk about it from time to time, and actively hit a few buttons to support it here and there when asked. It really does make a big difference. 

Connect We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward.

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About the Author & Host Dr. Jeff Williams – Chiropractor in Amarillo, TX, Chiropractic Advocate, Author, Entrepreneur, Educator, Businessman, Marketer, and Healthcare Blogger & Vlogger

Chiropractic & The Brain, Forward Head Posture Hurts, & Smoking Hurts Worse

CF 103: Chiropractic & The Brain, Forward Head Posture Hurts, & Smoking Hurts Worse

Today we’re going to talk about spinal manipulation’s effect on the brain, forward head posture and neck pain, and we’ll talk about how smoking is related to pain throughout the body. 

But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music

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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun, profitable, and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around. 

We’re the fun kind of research. Not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. We’re research talk over a couple of beers.

Welcome, I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.  

If you haven’t yet I have a few things you should do. 

  • Like our facebook page, 
  • join our private facebook group and interact, and then 
  • go review our podcast on iTunes and other podcast platforms. 
  • We also have an evidence-based brochure and poster store at chiropracticforward.com

Do it do it do it. 

You have collapsed into Episode #103

Now if you missed last week’s episode on headaches, contraindications to adjusting, and more info on maintenance care, then make sure you don’t miss that info. Go listen when you get done with this one. 

Just a quick re-cap, some of the more recent very popular episodes have been when we had Dr. James Lehman on ths show for episodes 96 and 97. Those were huge for listeners. 

Then, right after those, we had a couple of shows on Marketing Evidence Based practices. Those were big shows for us too. 

Our all time biggest episodes though have been #13, 14, and 15. They were early in our existence. They’re called Debunked: The Odd Myth That Chiropractors Cause Stroke. And then there was episode 80 with Dr. Anthony Nicholson on Decoding Chronic Pain. That was amazing. It was a mini-course on chronic pain and I promise, it’s one you don’t want to miss. 

Anyway, for those that are newer to our podcast, you’ll have to check those out and see what you think.

On the personal end of things, Dad is still in a struggle for independence. If you’ve been around stroke victims in the early weeks, it’s tough stuff. I don’t wish it on a single soul. Well, there’s this one attorney I used to know. Lol. 

Kidding. I Kid….

When it’s my time, man….I just want it to go lights out. BAM. Seeya! It’s been nice but I gotta go hang with Jesus and my family I haven’t seen in a while. Buh bye. 

We don’t get to choose but I sure hope that’s the way it goes. I never want to be a burden on anyone just so I can keep breathing. I want to check out and say adios amigos, hasta luego. 

As far as practice goes, all days are not created equally are they? This was one of those days. Where to even start really?

I had to get after staff members for not doing rehab long enough. I don’t like repeating myself 100 times but I also don’t like getting after the staff members. I hate it. But it has to be done from time to time. 

Then a PT told one my new patients not to go to the chiropractor until after he is done working with them because the patient is ‘gummy’ and an adjustment wouldn’t stick. Now, what the hell does that mean exactly? We don’t take bones from one place and put them into another. Adjustments don’t need to stick. They need to create movement. And alignment isn’t a real thing. Son of a mother, people. 

I’ve never had a PT directing my patient’s treatment in my office before so that was a fun surprise. 

Then a re-exam patient shows up 5 mintues before lunch. Talk about wanting to choke a patient. In a loving way of course because I love my patients but choke indeed. 

Then an attorney on a case on a patient that I’ve seen just three freaking times calls the office. He wants to get me and the insurance adjustor on the phone at the same time. He wants to know what my bill is going to be, how many times I’m going to see the patient, etc… Yeah no. Not happening. 

You have a question? Email me and tag the insurance adjustor. Want a specific answer, yeah…no. Everyone is different, every injury is different, and everyone heals at a different rate. I can give you a very rough estimate at best. Suck it Mr. Attorney, aka Mr. Waste My Freaking Time. 

Then I have a new car wreck patient that doesn’t want me to see his previous radiology reports because they told him nothing was wrong and he doesn’t want me making up my mind about him based on radiology reports. Are you serious? You can’t make this crap up y’all. 

Then, there’s some inner office fussing going on. It’s not a big deal but just un-needed on top of the rest of it while I’m trying to switch CPAs, balance and close out the month of November, and just keep my crap together long enough to go out to the rehab hospital to see my Dad. 

Lol. Wow, what a brain dump I just laid on you all. I apologize but again, I share personal aspects of what’s going on day to day because I know many of you will 100% identify and if you don’t, you can probably learn from my experiences. If you don’t learn how to handle them, then maybe you can learn how to NOT handle them. Lol. 

I’m OK with that too. 

I can’t remember if I shared on the last episode but did you know the new slang for 100% is hundo p? It’s true. So, I hundo p guarantee that tomorrow will be a better day because I played whack a mole all day today and those little bastards are going to have headaches and will lay a bit lower tomorrow. 

At least I hundo p hope so. 

Before we dive into the reason we’re here, it’s good to support the people that support you don’t you think? Well, ChiroUp certainly supports evidence-based practices. 

If you don’t take advantage of this deal, I just think you might be crazy.

If you’re a regular listener of our podcast, you know I’ve used ChiroUp since about June of 2018. Let me tell you about it because I’m about to give you a way to do a FREE TRIAL and, if you sign up, only pay $99/month for the first six months which is pennies compared to what it’s worth. So listen up!

ChiroUp is changing the way we practice by simplifying patient education and here’s what I mean: 

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You can see how this saves you time – no more explaining & re-explaining your patient’s care, because they have access to it at their fingertips. 

You can be confident that your patients are getting the best possible care, because the reports are populated based on what the literature recommends and isn’t that re-assuring? All of that work has been done FOR you. 

There are more than 1000 providers worldwide using ChiroUp to empower their treatments, patients, & practice – Including myself! **Short testimony**

If you don’t know what it’s all about or you’d like to check it out, do yourself a favor and go to Chiroup.com today to get started with your FREE TRIAL – Use code Williams99 to pay only $99/month for your first 6 months

That’s ChiroUp.com and super double secret code Williams99.

Item #1

Our first item is titled “Smoking Is Associated with Pain in All Body Regions, with Greatest Influence on Spinal Pain”, published in Pain Medicine Journal in October of 2019, and authored by Smuck, Scheider, and Ehsanian, et. al(Smuck M 2019). 

Why They Did It

The authors wanted to examine the interrleationship between smoking and pain the US

How They Did It

It was a cross-sectional population-based study

It was done nation-wide

They collected related demographicsin 2,307 subjects from 2003-2004

What They Found

Smoking is most strongly associated with spine pain, followed by headaches, then trunk pain, then limb pain. 

Wrap It Up

The conclusions is, “Current smoking is associated with pain in every region of the body. This association is strongest for spine and head pain. Given that pain is a strong motivator and that current smoking was associated with pain in all body regions, we recommend that these results be used to further raise public awareness about the potential harms of smoking.”

So we already knew that smoking was related to low back pain and disc issues from research we’ve covered here before. Now we know it goes beyond that. It’s everything everywhere basically. 

Honestly, can you think of anything that could actually be good about regularly inhale smoke all day every day? Like….anything at all? Of course not. And you know what’s going to piss some of you off? Other than some touted ideas on stress and pain relief, can you tell me what on Earth could be good about inhaling marijuana smoke regularly into one’s lungs. All day every day. Wake and bake is no better than smoking folks. I promise. When all the research shakes loose, you simply cannot inhale substances regularly and it be OK. 

As a side note I just want to throw some personal commentary in here. I had a conversation with a patient this week about another chiropractor here in my town and some of the beliefs and ideas that was laid on them on their visits with them. 

You know…..the things that push patients away and makes them come see other chiropractors. Things like don’t vaccinate your kids (regardless of your stance on the matter, don’t be a bully about it to your patients. It’s gross and unprofessional), things like don’t use cell phones because of radiation, things like pushing supplements more than an actual adjustment with exercises, things like we need 70 visits and $4000 from you this year to fix that loss of curve in your neck. Things like pushing the newest thing like CBD, multi-level marketing like supercharged water. 

From a patient’s perspective, if you went to your medical doctor and they’re pushing a ton of stuff from out of the blue….stuff beyond normal and customary medication. Things supplements that cost A LOT of money. They’re pushing CBD and selling if from their office, etc etc….

Well, those people look like snake oil salespeople. It’s not a good look, it’s off-putting, and we should hold ourselves to a higher standard. You can make plenty of money in this profession without selling your dignity and continually jumping on the hot new bandwagon. 

The golden oldies are still the best ROI, folks. Spinal manipulative therapy, exercise/rehab, physiotherapy, massage and manual therapy, acupuncture, and honest and high ethics. 

That’s your winning formula, y’all. Not CBD, special magical water, oils, and stuff like that. 

It’s just not. 

I swear I feel like I’m being controversial today but I’m not trying to be. I’m just speaking my mind and in the US at least these days, that is not a popular thing to do. We are at the point where 50% of the country hates the other 50% and anything you say, even when backed with facts, is taken as offesive material by half the country. 

Random thought just now. If kid slang for 100% is hundo p, for 50%, is it fitty p? Just a question I have. That’s all. 

Item #2

Now, item 2. This one is called “The Relationship Between Forward Head Posture and Neck Pain: a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis” published in Current Reviews in Musculoskeletal Medicine in November of 2019 and authored by Mahmoud, Hassan, Abdelimajeed, Moustafa, and Silva, et. al(Mahmoud N 2019). 

November 2019 – hot stuff. fog your glasses up steaming plate. 

And can I just say Oh how I wish my last name was Moustafa? Powerful – elegant – a little bit of hell yeah there. 

Why They Did It

Despite claims that FHP may be related to neck pain, this relation seems to be controversial. Thus, our purpose is to determine whether FHP differs between asymptomatic subjects and those with neck pain and to investigate if there is a relationship between head posture and neck pain.

How They Did It

15 cross-sectional studies were eligible for inclusion

It was a systematic review and meta-analysis – so basically high-level information and research

What They Found

The conclusion of the project was “This systematic review found that age played an important role as a confounding factor in the relation between FHP and neck pain. Also, the results showed that adults with neck pain show increased FHP when compared to asymptomatic adults and that FHP is significantly correlated with neck pain measures in adults and older adults. No association was found between FHP and most of neck pain measures in adolescents.”

Now, you curve people don’t start getting our of hand. Can’t we see a world where a person does not have Forward HEad Posture but still has a loss of a curve. However, that loss of curve doesn’t cause a lot of issues? Of course we can. Because we have recent research that shows loss of a curve isn’t that big of a damn deal long-term. 

This paper is on forward head posture specifically and it doesn’t take a research paper to envision sitting with consistent bad posture and developing upper cross syndrome is going to set a person up for some chronic pain issues. I can easily make that leap with you. And with these authors. Count me in. 

Item #3

This one is called “The effect of spinal manipulation on brain neurometabolites in chronic nonspecific low back pain patients: a randomized clinical trial” it was published in Irish Journal of Medical Science in November of 2019  and authored by Didehdar, Kamali, Yoosefinejad, Lotfi, et. al(Didehdar d 2019). 

November 2019 – Pow- firecracker hot right here. Watch your fingers

Why They Did It

In patients with chronic nonspecific low back pain (NCLBP), brain function changes due to the neuroplastic changes in different regions. They wanted to evaluate the brain metabolite changes after spinal manipulation, using proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy

How They Did It

  • 25 patients enrolled
  • They were randomly assigned to lumbopelvic mainpulation or sham manipulation
  • They were evaluated befre the study begain and at 5 weeks after treatment. 
  • The Numerical Rating Scale and the Oswestry Disability Index and the H-MRS outcome assessments were used to quantify the results

What They Found

After treatment, pain and functional disability were significantly reduced in the treatment group vs. the sham group. 

This paper gets heavy into the neurology so, in order to keep you on board here, we’ll straight to the conclusion. 

Wrap It Up

The authors concluded, “In the patient with low back pain, spinal manipulation affects the central nervous system and changes the brain metabolites. Consequently, pain and functional disability are reduced.”

We did an episode on what an adjustment does way back on episode #56. That was also the episode where I talked about a popular group of millennial chiropractors that pour on the theatrics and sales talk and teach other impressionable chiropractors to do the same. 

And then claimed to make degenerative arthritic spurs disappear after adjusting 3 or 4 times a day for like 2 or 3 weeks. I can’t recall exactly now but go back and listen to episode 56. It was a fun brain dump and is probably something you’ll enjoy if I’m guessing. I’m putting the link right here at this point in the show notes at chiropracticforward.com so go give it a looksee. 

How do you describe a manipulation? If you were on an airplane sitting next to a neurosurgeon and he asked you exactly how manipulation works and affects the body and pain, what would you tell him? Have you thought about it?

The folks at ChiroUp have thought about it and probably because they’re DACOs, the DACO program also has an interesting description to offer. 

Dr. Brandon Steele with ChiroUp offered a good explanation for cavitation back in October on their blog. I’ll leave the link for you in the show notes. 

He described the need for better communication with the patients regarding cavitation and whether something “goes” or pops. Too many times, patients equate a successful treatment with cavitation. You know what we’re saying here. 

To quote Dr. Steele’s blog, he says, “Joint manipulation improves range of motion across individual and multiple vertebral segments.  A recent paper by Anderstt et al. (2018) confirmed that cervical manipulation results in facet gaping.  This force also improves regional motion across multiple spinal levels during and post-manipulation.

“This study is the first to measure facet gapping during cervical manipulation on live humans. The results demonstrate that target and adjacent motion segments undergo facet joint gapping during manipulation and that intervertebral range of motion is increased in all three planes of motion after manipulation. The results suggest that clinical and functional improvement after manipulation may occur as a result of small increases in intervertebral ROM across multiple motion segments.” 

Evidence-based chiropractors can bridge the patient education knowledge gap by incorporating current research into simple explanations.”

The DACO program I’ve been discussing put it all into an excellent description. Check this out and let me know what you think about it. 

“Chiropractic adjustments exert their effects upon the nervous system in a variety of ways. 

In recent years the neuroscience community has taken great strides in uncovering the mechanisms at play. These include analgesic responses at the dorsal horn level, as well as activation of the descending inhibitory pathways from brainstem regions such as the periaqueductal gray. 

There is also a compelling body of research that suggests profound changes in sensorimotor integration within the cortex. 

It appears that manipulation relies upon signaling properties of the muscle spindles that lie embedded in the paraspinal tissues. As the spindle registers rapid lengthening of the muscle it transduces this into a large proprioceptive barrage. 

The unique nature of a manipulation seems to alter the responsiveness of second-order neurons in the dorsal horn and make them less sensitive to incoming nociceptive signals from injured tissues.”

Good stuff. The more you know, the better you are. The better you are, the more you stand out and the busier you are. 

The right kind of busy. Not busy because you scared people into treating with you. Not busy because you made a big deal out of something insignificant. 

Busy because you’re freaking smart as hell, make good reasonable recommendations. Busy because you took the time to get the extra education to be able to help your patients beyond what your local competitors can do. Busy because you’re honest and you know that treatment should have a start and it should have a finish. 

Busy because you’re an evidence-informed, evidence-based chiropractor and high level research backs everything you say and everything you do. 

There are few things more satisfying than saying, “Would you like for me to send you the research paper on that?”

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If you’re like me, you get tired of answering the same old questions. Well, these brochures make great ways of educating while saving yourself time and breath. They’re also great for putting in take-home folders. 

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment instead of chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show us that patients can get good to excellent results for headaches, neck pain, back pain, and joint pain just to name just a few.

It’s safe and cost-effective. It can decrease surgeries & disability and we normally do it through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal hassle to the patient. 

And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, we can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health of the patient!

Key Point:

Patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment offering the least harm. When it comes to non-complicated musculoskeletal complaints….

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show or tell us your suggestions for future episodes. Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on iTunes and other podcast services. Y’all know how this works by now so help if you don’t mind taking a few seconds to do so.

Help us get to the top of podcasts in our industry. That’s how we get the message out. 

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We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. 

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Bibliography

Didehdar d, K. F., Yoosefinejad AK, Lotfi M, (2019). “The effect of spinal manipulation on brain neurometabolites in chronic nonspecific low back pain patients: a randomized clinical trial.” Ir J Med Sci.

Mahmoud N, H. K., Abdelmajeed S, Moustafa I, Silva A, (2019). “The Relationship Between Forward Head Posture and Neck Pain: a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.” Curr Rev Musculoskelet Med: 1-16.

Smuck M, S. B., Ehsanian R, Martin E, Kao MJ, (2019). “Smoking Is Associated with Pain in All Body Regions, with Greatest Influence on Spinal Pain.” Pain Med.

w/ Dr. James Lehman (Pt. 2) – National Scope, Chronic vs. High Impact Chronic Pain, Coordinated Care/Medicaid, DACO to DIANM

CF 097: w/ Dr. James Lehman (Pt. 2) – National Scope, Chronic Pain vs. High Impact Chronic Pain , Coordinated Care/Medicaid, DACO to DIANM

Today we’re going to be talking with Dr. James Lehman. This is Part Two of the interview. If you are just now joining us and did not get to hear Part One, make sure you do so. When Dr. Lehman speaks, you don’t want to miss a word. We’re going to cover topics like implementing a national scope of practice, chronic pain vs. high impact chronic pain, and topics like should a chiropractor own rural healthcare clinics and chiropractors working in coordinated care and medicaid integrated settings. 

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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around. 

We’re the fun kind of research. We’re not the stuffy, high-brow kind of research. It’s like we’re talking about research over beers. Which is NOT like talking about research in a classroom or an institution of some sort. Accessible research if you will. I could be more professional but I’m not. 

Welcome, I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.  If you haven’t yet I have a few things you should do, like our facebook page, join our private facebook group and interact, and then go review our podcast on iTunes. We have a youtube channel and twitter too but those are the main things. 

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I always do a little update on my personal practice and life in the trenches. In the real world if you will. Instead of that, I want to say that last week, I was scrolling through my Facebook page and Dr. Lehman and I are friends on Facebook. 

I noticed a picture he posted laying in a hospital bed watching his beloved St. Louis Cardinals play on TV. 

It turns out that just last week, Dr. Lehman suffered a myocardial infarction. I normally wouldn’t mention this but, I figure if it’s posted on Facebook by the man himself, he’s OK with it. 

Anyway, the main reason I mention it is to ask you all to say a prayer for Dr. Lehman if you are the praying kind, which I most certainly am. If you are not, then please send some positive vibes, energy, or thoughts his way through the ether. Whatever it is, let’s give it to him because Dr. Lehman certainly has given us chiropractors a lot. 

Dr. Lehman, from what I can tell through Facebook and text, Dr. Lehman is doing well and on the mend. From me to Dr. Lehman, you have my prayers and thoughts and please get well my friend. 

Now, before we dive into this interview that we did a couple of weeks ago with Dr. Lehman, we have to pay the bills. 

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You can be confident that your patients are getting the best possible care, because the reports are populated based on what the literature recommends and isn’t that re-assuring? All of that work has been done FOR you. 

There are more than 1000 providers worldwide using ChiroUp to empower their treatments, patients, & practice – Including myself! **Short testimony**

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Introduction of Dr. James Lehman

Now, let’s go ahead and get on with the reason we’re all here. Before we speak with Dr. James Lehman, I want to go through a little background information on him for you so you are well aware of who he is and where he is coming from. 

Dr. James Lehman is an Associate Professor of Clinical Sciences at the University of Bridgeport/College of Chiropractic and Director of Health Sciences Postgraduate Education (HSPED). 

Dr. James Lehman completed his MBA at the University of New Mexico and a doctorate in chiropractic medicine at the Logan College of Chiropractic in St. Louis, Missouri.

Dr. James Lehman is a board-certified, chiropractic orthopedist. He teaches orthopedic and neurological examination and differential diagnosis of neuromusculoskeletal conditions. In addition, he provides clinical rotations for fourth-year chiropractic students and chiropractic residents in the community health center and a sports medicine rotation in the training facility of the local professional baseball team. 

As Director, Dr. James Lehman developed the three-year, full-time resident training program in chiropractic orthopedics and neuromusculoskeletal medicine. The program offers training within primary care facilities of a Federally Qualified Health Center and Patient-Centered Medical Home. While practicing in New Mexico, he mentored fourth-year, UNM medical students. We could go on and on. 

In your article, you include a section titled “Modernization of Medicare and Medicaid Coverage” which will lead us nicely into one of the main topics of our episode today. In this section you mention how Article 2706 of the Affordable Care Act is supposed to prevent discrimination against chiropractors but, for whatever reason, it hasn’t. I’ve been hollering about this through my position with the Texas Chiropractic Association for years. You talk about this a little in the article but…..why do you think nobody is forcing 2706 down people’s throats and what would it take to take a stand against insurance companies with 2706 as the basis?

OK, coordinated care and Medicaid: a topic you are very knowledgeable. In fact, we have discussed the integration of chiropractors into the FQHC’s around the nation. FQHC, for those that don’t know means Federally Qualified Health Centers. One of our former podcast guests is Dr. Kris Anderson from North Dakota who just happens to be the first in his state to work in an FQHC. 

Can you tell us more about coordinated care and Medicaid and the initiative to get chiropractic care integrated more into that setting?

Alright, last on our list of things we must talk about is the topic you have done a ton of work on. I remember one of the DACO classes I had with you as the instructor. In the class, I recall you mentioning that we as a profession do not diagnose chronic pain syndrome nearly enough. It’s a big problem, and one I’ve become more and more engaged in through the DACO program, so let’s dive into the topic of Chronic Pain Syndrome vs. High Impact Chronic Pain. 

I’m just going to turn it over to you on this. The way I want to start is for you to just tell us what you think we as a profession need to know and we can take it from there.  Chronic pain is a huge topic that really can be it’s own year long topic of chiropractic forward podcasts. Chronic pain affects a huge number of patients.

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If you’re like me, you get tired of answering the same old questions. Well, these brochures make great ways of educating while saving yourself time and breath. They’re also great for putting in take-home folders. 

Go check them out at chiropracticforward.com under the store link. While you’re there, sign up for the newsletter won’t you? We won’t spam you. Just one email per week to remind you when the new episode comes out. That’s it. 

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment instead of chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show that many patients get good or excellent results through chiropractic for headaches, neck pain, back pain, joint pain, to name just a few.

Chiropractic care is safe and cost-effective. It can decrease instances of surgery & disability. Chiropractors normally do this through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal time requirements or hassle to the patient. 

And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, chiropractors can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health of the patient!

Key Point:

Patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment offering the least harm.

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show or tell us your suggestions for future episodes. Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on iTunes and other podcast services. Y’all know how this works by now so help if you don’t mind taking a few seconds to do so.

Help us get to the top of podcasts in our industry. That’s how we get the message out. 

Connect

We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. 

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w/ Dr. James Lehman (Pt. 1) – National Scope, Chronic vs. High Impact Chronic, Coordinated Care/Medicaid, DACO to DIANM

Today we’re going to be talking with Dr. James Lehman. Yes, THE Dr. James Lehman and we are fortunate to have him with us. The experience and the common sense Dr. Lehman brings to the table is immense and I can’t wait to dive into it today. We’re going to talk about national scope

But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music

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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around. Welcome, I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.  

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Now if you missed last week’s episode on chiropractic and opioids, on anti-inflammatory diets, and on screen time for kiddos…. make sure you don’t miss that info. Go back and listen. I think there were some good information there within so make sure you’re up to date and not falling behind the rest. 

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ChiroUp is changing the way we practice by simplifying patient education and here’s what I mean: 

In a matter of seconds, you can send condition-specific reports to your patients with recommendations for treatment, for their activities of daily living, & for their exercises. 

You can see how this saves you time – no more explaining & re-explaining your patient’s care, because they have access to it at their fingertips. 

You can be confident that your patients are getting the best possible care, because the reports are populated based on what the literature recommends and isn’t that re-assuring? All of that work has been done FOR you. 

There are more than 1000 providers worldwide using ChiroUp to empower their treatments, patients, & practice – Including myself! **Short testimony**

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Introduction of Dr. James Lehman

Now, let’s go ahead and get on with the reason we’re all here. Before we speak with Dr. James Lehman, I want to go through a little background information on him for you so you are well aware of who he is and where he is coming from. 

Dr. James Lehman is an Associate Professor of Clinical Sciences at the University of Bridgeport/College of Chiropractic and Director of Health Sciences Postgraduate Education (HSPED). 

Dr. James Lehman completed his MBA at the University of New Mexico and a doctorate in chiropractic medicine at the Logan College of Chiropractic in St. Louis, Missouri.

Dr. James Lehman is a board-certified, chiropractic orthopedist. He teaches orthopedic and neurological examination and differential diagnosis of neuromusculoskeletal conditions. In addition, he provides clinical rotations for fourth-year chiropractic students and chiropractic residents in the community health center and a sports medicine rotation in the training facility of the local professional baseball team. 

As Director, Dr. James Lehman developed the three-year, full-time resident training program in chiropractic orthopedics and neuromusculoskeletal medicine. The program offers training within primary care facilities of a Federally Qualified Health Center and Patient-Centered Medical Home. While practicing in New Mexico, he mentored fourth-year, UNM medical students. We could go on and on. 

Welcome to the show Dr. James Lehman, it’s an honor to have you on the Chiropractic Forward Podcast this week. 

Let’s start with the topic that immediately impacts me. I have been telling our listeners for a year or more that I’m going through the DACO program. DACO stands for the Diplomate of the Academy of Chiropractic Orthopedists. Very recently, as in just a few weeks ago, I received notice that the designation has changed to DIANM which stands for the Diplomate of the International Academy of Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine. 

What was the impetus for the change and what all went in to making the decision, deciding on the name, and then moving forward with the decision?

You wrote an article recently that Dynamic Chiropractic published in their September 2019 issue. The title of it was “What Is Chiropractic? We Need A National Practice Act.” We are in a profession that seems to me to bristle at the idea of standardization. How has this article been recieved or is it still a bit too early to tell?

In the article, you say, “Limited Medicare and Medicaid scopes of reimbursement and individual state scope-of-practice restrictions reduce access to chiropractic wervices for patients in pain.” Can you explain how you think limited scopes reduce access and how a broader scope can help us? And how broad of a scope do you advocate for?

I would assume a national scope would be something the ACA would be in the driver’s seat for, which is something you mention in the article as well. Is this something the ACA is looking at? Other than resistance within our own profession, what hurdles would you see in the way of a national scope?

You say it’s not impossible to accomplish and offer 6 essential charactieristics which include:

  1. Chiropractic Physician designation. 
  2. The scope being determined by Doctoral and Post-Doctoral education, trainng and experience 
  3. Full management, referral and prescription authority commensurate with contemporary chiropractic education for patient examination, differential diagnosis, working diagnosis, and health assessment
  4. Full evaulation and management, referral and prescription authority commensurate with contemporary chiropractic education for the care and treatment of neuromusculskeletal and other health conditions or issues. 
  5. Full authority for the delivery of information, advice, recommendations and counseling regarding general health matters, wellness, and health optimization. 
  6. Full authority and adaptable requirements fo the management and training of health care teams and the participation in collaborative or integrative health care groups. 

When I read through that list, does anything jump out at you as being particularly radical or provocative to some chiropractors?

In your article, you include a section titled “Modernization of Medicare and Medicaid Coverage” which will lead us nicely into one of the main topics of our episode today. In this section you mention how Article 2706 of the Affordable Care Act is supposed to prevent discrimination against chiropractors but, for whatever reason, it hasn’t. I’ve been hollering about this through my position with the Texas Chiropractic Association for years. You talk about this a little in the article but…..why do you think nobody is forcing 2706 down people’s throats and what would it take to take a stand against insurance companies with 2706 as the basis?

OK, coordinated care and Medicaid: a topic you are very knowledgeable. In fact, we have discussed the integration of chiropractors into the FQHC’s around the nation. FQHC, for those that don’t know means Federally Qualified Health Centers. One of our former podcast guests is Dr. Kris Anderson from North Dakota who just happens to be the first in his state to work in an FQHC. 

Can you tell us more about coordinated care and Medicaid and the initiative to get chiropractic care integrated more into that setting?

Alright, last on our list of things we must talk about is the topic you have done a ton of work on. I remember one of the DACO classes I had with you as the instructor. In the class, I recall you mentioning that we as a profession do not diagnose chronic pain syndrome nearly enough. It’s a big problem, and one I’ve become more and more engaged in through the DACO program, so let’s dive into the topic of Chronic Pain Syndrome vs. High Impact Chronic Pain. 

I’m just going to turn it over to you on this. The way I want to start is for you to just tell us what you think we as a profession need to know and we can take it from there. 

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If you’re like me, you get tired of answering the same old questions. Well, these brochures make great ways of educating while saving yourself time and breath. They’re also great for putting in take-home folders. 

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment instead of chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show that many patients get good or excellent results through chiropractic for headaches, neck pain, back pain, joint pain, to name just a few.

Chiropractic care is safe and cost-effective. It can decrease instances of surgery & disability. Chiropractors normally do this through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal time requirements or hassle to the patient. 

And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, chiropractors can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health of the patient!

Key Point:

Patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment offering the least harm.

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show or tell us your suggestions for future episodes. Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on iTunes and other podcast services. Y’all know how this works by now so help if you don’t mind taking a few seconds to do so.

Help us get to the top of podcasts in our industry. That’s how we get the message out. 

Connect

We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. 

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Big Discs Can Disappear, Chronic Pain & Chiropractic Success, The First Week Says A Lot About The Fourth

CF 093: Big Discs Can Disappear, Chronic Pain & Chiropractic Success, The First Week Says A Lot About The Fourth

Today we’re going to talk about the resorption of lumbar disc herniations (Hint: lots of the big ones don’t need surgery at all!), we’ll talk about chronic low back pain and the success of chiropractic, and we’ll talk about how, after the first visit, you might can tell how well your patient is going to do in the long-term. 

But first, here’s that sweet sweet bumper music

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OK, we are back and you have found the Chiropractic Forward Podcast where we are making evidence-based chiropractic fun and accessible while we make you and your patients better all the way around. Welcome, I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.  

You have tippy-toed quietly into Episode #93 and I do appreciate your keeping it down for me. I’ve been a little tired here lately. 

Now if you missed last week’s episode on the history of chiropractic, you need to  make sure you don’t miss that. It was really fun episode to put together. Especially for a history junkie/nerd like myself. I believe here recently September 18 to be exact, it was the anniversary of DD Palmer inventing chiropractic. We talked a little about whether he invented it or borrowed it or whatever. We talked about that in that episode. Pretty interesting. 

Other more recent episodes you need to be aware of would be the Closing Patients episode. Go learn more about that garbage please. It’s important. 

Also waaaayyyy back (old man river) episode 13 was on Debunking the Myth that chiropractors cause strokes. Enough of that trash. It’s not true and you need to know why, how, when, and how to tell others that it’s bunk info. 

For you older chiros, bunk means bad info. 

One other I think new listeners should go back and find would be about 6-8 weeks ago, episode 90 I believe. It was our mini-class basically on Decoding Chronic Pain. What priceless info. It’s like you went to a seminar and got all of the information for free straight from Dr. Anthony Nicholson. He’s crazy smart. 

Or the way they say it in Boston….he’s wicked smaht. 

I’m currently getting ready to head to St. Louis for the Forward ’19 seminar. It’s all a part of the FTCA Facebook Group and website group. By the time this episode airs, it will already have come and gone but you know I’ll tell you all about it next week. 

I’m looking forward to meeting a lot of the folks from the group that I see interacting with each other all of the time. I’m looking forward to networking and bouncing ideas off each other as well. 

There may be some cocktails in the mix as well so, you know, there’s that too. 

I’m still going through the DACO studying. I have part II coming up on November 9th. Wouldn’t it be nice if you could just get a Diplomate because you took all 300 hours and passed all of the tests and quizzes along the way? 

If you ask the older guys that did the DABCO several years ago, they’ll tell you I’m whining and I need to just shut up because they had it way worse. And you know what? They’d be right. They DID have it way worse. Still, I have a very busy practice, I have a 47 year old brain that doesn’t retain the amount it once did, and I’ve been studying for the part I and the Part II during my free time since probably May. And you know what? I’m tired of studying. Lol. 

I’m ready for it to be over and done with. Geez. Stress, studying, sustained over a long period of time….there’s absolutely a reason that we don’t have a large number of doctors getting the specialization diplomates. It’s carried out over too long of a period. But that’s just fussing. The hours of actual class have been amazing learning. I have stood under the niagara falls of knowledge nuggets people. I swear. 

I’m all in. I’m ten times better than I ever thought I was and for some things, I thought I was pretty put together. I spent a lot of years putting together and taking apart different aspects of a low back exam. I was already coming into it very much up on lumbar differential diagnosis. I’m still better than I was. 

I knew jack squat in regard to the shoulder compared to what I now know. Same goes for the hip, knee, and on down the line. 

If you need some help getting some info and starting down the track of that Ortho Diplomate, let me know. Send me and email at dr.williams@chiropracticforward.com and I’ll be glad to do what I can to get you going. 

We’ll get to the paper on whether discs can resorb in just a sec but first, It’s good to support the people that support you don’t you think? Well, ChiroUp certainly supports evidence-based practices. 

If you’re a regular listener of our podcast, you know I used it since about June of 2018. Let me tell you about it. 

ChiroUp is changing the way we practice by simplifying patient education and here’s what I mean: 

In a matter of seconds, you can send condition-specific reports to your patients with recommendations for treatment, for their activities of daily living, & for their exercises. 

You can see how this saves you time – no more explaining & re-explaining your patient’s care, because they have access to it at their fingertips. 

You can be confident that your patients are getting the best possible care, because the reports are populated based on what the literature recommends and isn’t that re-assuring? All of that work has been done FOR you. 

There are more than 1000 providers worldwide using ChiroUp to empower their treatments, patients, & practice – Including myself! **Short testimony**

If you don’t know what it’s all about or you’d like to check it out, do yourself a favor and go to Chiroup.com today to get started with your FREE TRIAL – Use code Williams99 to pay only $99/month for your first 6 months

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Item #1

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28072796/

Let’s start the research part of the show with one called “Incidence of Spontaneous Resorption of Lumbar Disc Herniation: A Meta-Analysis” by M Zhong, JT Liu, H Jiang, et. al(Zhong M 2017). and published in Pain Physician in 2017. Not new enough to play the Hot stuff sound byte and not old enough to sing old man river to you. Just somewhere in between so we’ll just play some random sound byte for you here. Lol. 

You know me…..heavy on the entertainment part here. 

Anyway, here’s Why They Did It

the wanted to analyze the incidence of spontaneous resorption after conservative treatment of low back discs using CT and MRI imaging. 

How They Did It

This paper was a meta-analysis, meaning they took information from a whole bunch of previously done papers and compiled the best information that could be extracted from them to come up with their findings. 

They used a search of the literature from 1990 all the way through 2015. That’s 15 years for those of you that didn’t take mathematics in school. They used very common databases called PubMed, Embase, and the Cochrane Library to find these papers for inclusion. 

What They Found

The overall incidence of spontaneous resorption was 66.66%. Oddly enough they say that the incidence in the UK was a whopping 82% while in Japan it was only 62%. What the hell gives there? I’m not worldly enough to know the significant differences in lifestyles of those two countries to figure out why that would be. Maybe one of you world travelers can offer us some suggestions. Email me. I’d love to hear it. 

Wrap It Up

Wrapping up this paper the authors conclude, “The phenomenon of LDH reabsorption is well recognized. Because its overall incidence is now 66.66% according to our results, conservative treatment may become the first choice of treatment for LDH.”

Now what do I personally know about this? I know that was your next question that was just on the tip of your tongue so I’m going to answer it for you. 

We know, and this comes through the DACO teaching, that a couple of things can give you  clue to whether or not a herniation will eat itself. That sounds like will ferrell doing harry carry on saturday night live. If you were a hot dog….would you eat yourself? I know I would. Lol. 

Anyway….Lord help me. Anyway, a couple of things:

The make up of the herniation

The extent of migration

If there has been endplate damage / modic changes, with that, you might see some trash or garbage inside the herniation on MRI. It may look speckled. When it looks speckled, it is more stubborn and less likely to go away on its own.

On the other hand, if it’s made up of more nuclear material, it’s smoother in appearance and more likely to be able to be reabsorbed. 

On top of that, when a herniation has more than a 4mm migration, it’s further out there and the body is more likely to recognize it as an issue and more likely to do something about it by breaking it down and getting rid of it. 

This is EXCELLENT news for people with these big discs that you may have at one time thought were most certainly surgical. I used to think they were. I think a lot of surgeons probably still think they are. But not all of them are. That’s a researched fact at this point. 

Item #2

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12214186/

This one is called “Can patient reactions to the first chiropractic treatment predict early favorable treatment outcome in persistent low back pain?” by I Axen, A Rosenbaum, and T Wren, et. al. and was published in Journal of Manipulative Physiological Therapeutics in 2002(Axen I 2002). Old Man River….

Why They Did It

To investigate whether 3 distinct patterns of reactions to chiropractic care predict early favorable treatment outcomes in patients suffering persistent low back pain. 

What They Found

OF the 115 patients int eh most favorable prognostic group, 84% reported to be definitely improved but the 4th visit vs. 63% of the 384 in the intermediate group, and 30% of the 116 in the least favorable prognostic group. 

Wrap It Up

“Among chiropractic patients with persistent low back pain, it is possible to predict which patients will report definite improvement early in the course of treatment.”

Basically, if you’re getting good response in the first week or so, game on. That patient is likely to have an excellent outcome. 

On to the paper on chronic low back pain patients being referred form a spine surgeon it just a second. Let’s try our best to pay the bills first. 

Let’s talk about GoChiroTV. GoChiroTV is a patient education system for your office that actually saves you money. Instead of spending money on cable TV or looping a DVD over and over in your lobby, the bite-sized videos are specifically made to inform your patients about the importance of chiropractic, healthy living, and to encourage referrals while, at the same time, presenting the benefits of all of the different products and services that you offer. Specific to your office.

That’s right. It works by using a tailor-fit video playlist that only promotes the products and services offered in your specific practice. Not only that but the videos are updated automatically on a weekly basis so there’s no need to manually update your playlist AND you don’t have to learn any complicated software. You get to just set it and forget it. And don’t we busy doctors need just that?

Listeners of the Chiropractic Forward Podcast can use the promo code CFP19 at checkout to get 15% off all subscriptions. That’s CFP19, which also comes with a 45-day free trial to see if it’s right for your practice. Your discounted rate will be locked in for as long as you have a subscription.

Go visit GoChiroMedia.com to check out the demo reels and get started on your free trial.

Item #3

https://chiromt.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12998-018-0225-8

This last item is called “An observational study on trajectories and outcomes of chronic low back pain patients referred from a spine surgery division for chiropractic treatment” by Brigitte Wirth et. al. and it was published in Chiropractic & Manual Therapies in 2019(Wirth B 2019). There it is fresh outta the oven and slapped on your plate for gobblin’ purposes. 

Why They Did IT

The aim of this study was to describe the trajectories and outcomes of patients with chronic LBP referred from the spine surgery division to the chiropractic teaching clinic.

How They Did It

  • The patients filled in an 11-point numeric rating scale (NRS) for pain intensity and the Bournemouth Questionnaire (BQ) (bio-psycho-social measure) at baseline and after 1 week, 1, 3, 6 and 12 months.
  • The Patient’s Global Impression of Change (PGIC) scale was recorded at all time points apart from baseline
  • The data was analyzed using linear mixed model analysis and repeated measures ANOVA

What They Found

  • Between June 2014 and October 2016, 67 participants (31 male, mean age = 46.8 ± 17.6 years) were recruited, of whom 46 had suffered from LBP for > 1 year, the rest for > 3 months
  • At baseline, mean NRS was 5.43 and mean BQ was 39.80 points
  • NRS significantly decreased to 4.05 after 12 months but a significant reduction was not observed BEFORE 6 months after treatment start. So….it took time to see the difference. But don’t a lot of our evidence-informed crowd give you the poo face stink eye if you see patients more than just a couple of weeks? Food for thought judgy judgers!!
  • Now, the Bourneouth Questionnaire – it significantly diminished to 29 points after 12 months and showed a significant reduction in just the first month after treatment started. 
  • Also, the proportion of those showing overall improvement significantly increased from 23% after 1 week of treatment up to 47% after 1 month of treatment. 

Wrap It Up

“Chiropractic treatment is a valuable conservative treatment modality associated with clinically relevant improvement in approximately half of patients with chronic LBP. These findings provide an example of the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration in the treatment of chronic back pain patients.”

That’s some great info right there folks. Ingest it. Roll it around. Not everyone on Facebook has all of the answers. Not even your mentors have ALL of the right answers. We all have to find our own way don’t we? I know I did. 

And we all have to keep learning. Neuroplasticity is real. We keep learning. We keep growing and hopefully we keep altering our perception of what is and what can be. Research helps us do that don’t you agree?

This week, I want you to go forward with…..

Key Takeaways

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If you’re like me, you get tired of answering the same old questions. Well, these brochures make great ways of educating while saving yourself time and breath. They’re also great for putting in take-home folders. 

Go check them out at chiropracticforward.com under the store link. While you’re there, sign up for the newsletter won’t you? We won’t spam you. Just one email per week to remind you when the new episode comes out. That’s it. 

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment instead of chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show that many patients get good or excellent results through chiropractic for headaches, neck pain, back pain, joint pain, to name just a few.

Chiropractic care is safe and cost-effective. It can decrease instances of surgery & disability. Chiropractors normally do this through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal time requirements or hassle to the patient. 

And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, chiropractors can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health of the patient!

Key Point:

Patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment offering the least harm.

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show or tell us your suggestions for future episodes. Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on iTunes and other podcast services. Y’all know how this works by now so help if you don’t mind taking a few seconds to do so.

Help us get to the top of podcasts in our industry. That’s how we get the message out. 

Connect

We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. 

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About the Author & Host

Dr. Jeff Williams – Chiropractor in Amarillo, TX, Chiropractic Advocate, Author, Entrepreneur, Educator, Businessman, Marketer, and Healthcare Blogger & Vlogger

Bibliography

  • Axen I, R. A., Robech R, Wren T, Leboeuf-Yde C, (2002). “Can patient reactions to the first chiropractic treatment predict early favorable treatment outcome in persistent low back pain?” J Man Physiol Ther 25(7): 450-454.
  • Wirth B (2019). “An observational study on trajectories and outcomes of chronic low back pain patients referred from a spine surgery division for chiropractic treatment.” BMC Chiro Man Ther 6.
  • Zhong M, L. J., Jiang H, (2017). “Incidence of Spontaneous Resorption of Lumbar Disc Herniation: A Meta-Analysis.” Pain Physician 20(1): E45-E52.

w/ Dr. John Van Tassel – (Part Two) Florida State Athletics, Mentoring, & Life/Work Balance

CF 083: w/ Dr. John Van Tassel – Florida State Athletics, Mentoring, & Life/Work Balance

Today we’re going to continue talking with our guest, Dr. John Van Tassell. This is part two of our interview so, if you’ve yet to listen to part one, stop now and go back one week and start there. You don’t want to miss the sage-like wisdom of this amazing chiropractic ambassador.  You are absolutely going to love listening to Dr. Van Tassel talk about Division I college sports, mentoring, and a good healthy life/work balance.

Before we get going with part two, here’s that Miami Vice-like bumper music

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OK, we are back. Welcome to the podcast today, I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.  

You have twisted and shouted your way right into Episode #83. When you have a guest from Florida, you think of gators and snakes. And Pablo Escobar and Miami Vice but we try to not get too under the table here on the Chiropractic Forward Podcast. 

Before we hop into the episode, let’s talk about GoChiroTV. GoChiroTV is a patient education system for your office that will eliminate the need for running cable TV or the same DVDs over and over again in your waiting room. The bite-sized videos are specifically made to inform your patients about the importance of chiropractic and healthy living, encourage referrals, and present the benefits of all the different products and services you offer.

It works by using a tailored-fit video playlist that will only promote the products and services available at your practice, and the videos are replaced automatically on a weekly basis. There’s no need to manually update your playlist or learn any complicated software. You truly can set it and forget it.

Listeners of the Chiropractic Forward Podcast can use the promo code CFP19 at checkout to get 15% off all subscriptions, which also comes with a 45-day free trial to see if it’s right for your practice. Your discounted rate will be locked in for as long as you have a subscription. 

So visit GoChiroMedia.com (that’s g-o-c-h-i-r-o-m-e-d-i-a-.com) to check out the demo reels, and to get started on your free trial. Take you practice to the next level with GoChiroTV.

Introduction

We’re here to advocate for chiropractic while we also make your life easier using research and some good solid common sense and smart talk. 

Go check our evidence-based brochures out at chiropracticforward.com under the store link. While you’re there, sign up for the newsletter won’t you? 

How about the previous two episodes we did with Dr. Anthony Nicholson on Chronic pain? That was basically a mini-masterclass folks. I hope you know that. If you know nothing of any substance about chronic pain, the previous two episodes are your starting points. 

You have to listen to me here. Just go listen. Thank me later. He is the Niagara Falls of knowledge nuggets folks. 

In personal happenings, my family experienced some unpleasantness this past weekend. My 7 year old blue European Great Dane passed away. We got the Euro Dane because they are supposed to be heartier than their American Dane counterparts. 

They think she developed some sort of tumor that zapped her weight, had her dehydrated, and just unable to walk or do anything. Not cool. It was the opposite of anything fun but, she’s not suffering and that’s the best you can ask for on that sort of deal. 

Now on to our special guest today. INTRODUCTION

He is a heck of a communicator. Any discussion I have seen him take part in on the Forward Thinking Chiropractic Alliance Facebook page….he’s the most thorough, most sensible, most sage-like if you will. I’ve even sent him patients all the way from where I sit here in Amarillo, TX. 

He’s the Yoda of chiropractors and I love reading his stories. If someone asks him a question, he doesn’t respond with a paragraph. He sits down and really thinks about it, considers it at length, and then responds with about a 5 paragraph guidance manual and I love it. 

Not to mention the fact that he’s one of the most accomplished you’ll find in any group anywhere. 

All of that is personal experience and fine and dandy but how about we give him an official introduction?

  • Graduating from Logan College of Chiropractic, Dr. John Van Tassel has been a chiropractor since 1991 and is the owner of Athletic and Family Chiropractic in Tallahassee, Florida. 
  • He has been an adjunct professor at Tallahassee Community College and Florida State University. 
  • He has been the FCA Sports Council Doctor of the Year
  • The ProSport Chiropractic Doctor of the Year for the Southeast Region
  • And has been a contributing author in various publications

What really gets one’s attention about Dr. Van Tassel is that he is the team chiropractor for the Florida State Seminoles. A perennial powerhouse of anything athletic in the SEC. 

We’re going to talk about all of it and you’re going to be fascinated so here we go. 

Let’s welcome to the show, the pride of Tallahassee, Dr. John Van Tassel. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your schedule to be with us today. 

Let’s start with a little humor. The first thing I want to know is…..what in the heck is up with Florida? There was even a Facebook game going around for a while where you just Google your birthday and the words “Florida man…” Lol. Are Floridians just inherently crazy?

Tell me….we all have a story that got us where we are. I always like to ask this question because chiropractic is a bit of a niche choice when choosing a career. What was your story toward being a chiropractor?

Now I noticed you’re originally from North Carolina. Why the move to Tallahassee. 

We became acquainted either through the evidence based chiropractic group or the forward thinking chiropractic alliance group. I can’t remember which but one of them for sure. They’re great groups. You’ll find people that are bull-headed that it’s their way or they scoff at you but that’s with any group really. Mostly….overall….they’re very friendly, very helpful, and very giving people. Giving of their experience and information as well as giving with their assistance should you need something. 

I always encourage anyone that considers themselves on the evidence-informed spectrum of the profession to join both groups. I learn SOMETHING from each of them just about every week. 

With that being said, I think you’ll agree that you are one of the more active members of the FTCA. Tell me about how you got involved with the Forward Thinking Chiropractic Alliance and what keeps you coming back daily.

One of the things that obviously sets you apart from the run-of-the-mill chiropractor is your involvement with Florida State. Let’s start at the beginning and just talk about that for a bit. How did you get started with a D-I program? Was it a specific certification that moved you in that direction? What’s it like day to day, month to month, and year to year? And has it morphed through the years? 

In our preparation for this episode, you mentioned that you enjoy mentoring younger practitioners. With that in mind, what advice do you feel is vital for someone just starting out trying to open or build their own practice?

Continuing with the mentoring theme, what do you find to be the important aspects of maintaining a healthy work/life balance?

You seem to have a unique ability to recall things. For example, I can’t remember what I had for lunch yesterday but you can recall happenings and conversations from 20 years ago. 

I really think, and I believe most of the FTCA members would agree, that you have the best stories and should probably be working on your first book by now. 

With that in mind, can you re-tell the one you shared yesterday about the carpal tunnel patient that went to the GP who basically told her you didn’t know what you were talking about?

Now, the reason I asked for that one specifically, is because you’re in an arena where you commonly interact with other practitioners from the medical field. Are you experiencing this sort of bias against chiropractic in that world as well? Why do you think MD’s still don’t understand what it is that we do?

One of my favorite stories of your was about your Wall of Fame down your hallway. I’m sure there are plenty of recognizable names on that but your favorite is Mrs. Jones. Someone nobody outside of your practice and her personal circle would know. Is that a story you would mind sharing with us?

I want to close with this because this may be something that people can really use as the key takeaway from our time together today. 

I was reading one of your posts that went like this, “I was just thinking about something while A plumber unclogs my system at the house. I tell people, patients and students and athletes mostly, that desire and passion and determination are key. But it’s our habits that get us where we are going. We accomplish goals by developing habits.”

Now, I don’t know how a plumber brings to mind things like goals and habits but, I couldn’t agree more. What would you say are your core habits that have made the difference in your career?

You have slithered right into Episode #82. When you have a guest from Florida, you think of gators and snakes. And Pablo Escobar and Miami Vice but we try to not get too under the table here on the Chiropractic Forward Podcast. 

Before we hop into the episode, let’s talk about GoChiroTV. GoChiroTV is a patient education system for your office that will eliminate the need for running cable TV or the same DVDs over and over again in your waiting room. The bite-sized videos are specifically made to inform your patients about the importance of chiropractic and healthy living, encourage referrals, and present the benefits of all the different products and services you offer.

It works by using a tailored-fit video playlist that will only promote the products and services available at your practice, and the videos are replaced automatically on a weekly basis. There’s no need to manually update your playlist or learn any complicated software. You truly can set it and forget it.

Listeners of the Chiropractic Forward Podcast can use the promo code CFP19 at checkout to get 15% off all subscriptions, which also comes with a 45-day free trial to see if it’s right for your practice. Your discounted rate will be locked in for as long as you have a subscription. 

So visit GoChiroMedia.com (that’s g-o-c-h-i-r-o-m-e-d-i-a-.com) to check out the demo reels, and to get started on your free trial. Take you practice to the next level with GoChiroTV.

Introduction

We’re here to advocate for chiropractic while we also make your life easier using research and some good solid common sense and smart talk. 

Go check our evidence-based brochures out at chiropracticforward.com under the store link. While you’re there, sign up for the newsletter won’t you? 

How about the previous two episodes we did with Dr. Anthony Nicholson on Chronic pain? That was basically a mini-masterclass folks. I hope you know that. If you know nothing of any substance about chronic pain, the previous two episodes are your starting points. 

You have to listen to me here. Just go listen. Thank me later. He is the Niagara Falls of knowledge nuggets folks. 

In personal happenings, my family experienced some unpleasantness this past weekend. My 7 year old blue European Great Dane passed away. We got the Euro Dane because they are supposed to be heartier than their American Dane counterparts. 

They think she developed some sort of tumor that zapped her weight, had her dehydrated, and just unable to walk or do anything. Not cool. It was the opposite of anything fun but, she’s not suffering and that’s the best you can ask for on that sort of deal. 

Now on to our special guest today. INTRODUCTION

He is a heck of a communicator. Any discussion I have seen him take part in on the Forward Thinking Chiropractic Alliance Facebook page….he’s the most thorough, most sensible, most sage-like if you will. I’ve even sent him patients all the way from where I sit here in Amarillo, TX. 

He’s the Yoda of chiropractors and I love reading his stories. If someone asks him a question, he doesn’t respond with a paragraph. He sits down and really thinks about it, considers it at length, and then responds with about a 5 paragraph guidance manual and I love it. 

Not to mention the fact that he’s one of the most accomplished you’ll find in any group anywhere. 

All of that is personal experience and fine and dandy but how about we give him an official introduction?

  • Graduating from Logan College of Chiropractic, Dr. John Van Tassel has been a chiropractor since 1991 and is the owner of Athletic and Family Chiropractic in Tallahassee, Florida. 
  • He has been an adjunct professor at Tallahassee Community College and Florida State University. 
  • He has been the FCA Sports Council Doctor of the Year
  • The ProSport Chiropractic Doctor of the Year for the Southeast Region
  • And has been a contributing author in various publications

What really gets one’s attention about Dr. Van Tassel is that he is the team chiropractor for the Florida State Seminoles. A perennial powerhouse of anything athletic in the SEC. 

We’re going to talk about all of it and you’re going to be fascinated so here we go. 

Let’s welcome to the show, the pride of Tallahassee, Dr. John Van Tassel. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your schedule to be with us today. 

Let’s start with a little humor. The first thing I want to know is…..what in the heck is up with Florida? There was even a Facebook game going around for a while where you just Google your birthday and the words “Florida man…” Lol. Are Floridians just inherently crazy?

Tell me….we all have a story that got us where we are. I always like to ask this question because chiropractic is a bit of a niche choice when choosing a career. What was your story toward being a chiropractor?

Now I noticed you’re originally from North Carolina. Why the move to Tallahassee. 

We became acquainted either through the evidence based chiropractic group or the forward thinking chiropractic alliance group. I can’t remember which but one of them for sure. They’re great groups. You’ll find people that are bull-headed that it’s their way or they scoff at you but that’s with any group really. Mostly….overall….they’re very friendly, very helpful, and very giving people. Giving of their experience and information as well as giving with their assistance should you need something. 

I always encourage anyone that considers themselves on the evidence-informed spectrum of the profession to join both groups. I learn SOMETHING from each of them just about every week. 

With that being said, I think you’ll agree that you are one of the more active members of the FTCA. Tell me about how you got involved with the Forward Thinking Chiropractic Alliance and what keeps you coming back daily.

One of the things that obviously sets you apart from the run-of-the-mill chiropractor is your involvement with Florida State. Let’s start at the beginning and just talk about that for a bit. How did you get started with a D-I program? Was it a specific certification that moved you in that direction? What’s it like day to day, month to month, and year to year? And has it morphed through the years? 

In our preparation for this episode, you mentioned that you enjoy mentoring younger practitioners. With that in mind, what advice do you feel is vital for someone just starting out trying to open or build their own practice?

Continuing with the mentoring theme, what do you find to be the important aspects of maintaining a healthy work/life balance?

You seem to have a unique ability to recall things. For example, I can’t remember what I had for lunch yesterday but you can recall happenings and conversations from 20 years ago. 

I really think, and I believe most of the FTCA members would agree, that you have the best stories and should probably be working on your first book by now. 

With that in mind, can you re-tell the one you shared yesterday about the carpal tunnel patient that went to the GP who basically told her you didn’t know what you were talking about?

Now, the reason I asked for that one specifically, is because you’re in an arena where you commonly interact with other practitioners from the medical field. Are you experiencing this sort of bias against chiropractic in that world as well? Why do you think MD’s still don’t understand what it is that we do?

One of my favorite stories of your was about your Wall of Fame down your hallway. I’m sure there are plenty of recognizable names on that but your favorite is Mrs. Jones. Someone nobody outside of your practice and her personal circle would know. Is that a story you would mind sharing with us?

I want to close with this because this may be something that people can really use as the key takeaway from our time together today. 

I was reading one of your posts that went like this, “I was just thinking about something while A plumber unclogs my system at the house. I tell people, patients and students and athletes mostly, that desire and passion and determination are key. But it’s our habits that get us where we are going. We accomplish goals by developing habits.”

Now, I don’t know how a plumber brings to mind things like goals and habits but, I couldn’t agree more. What would you say are your core habits that have made the difference in your career?

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I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment instead of chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show that many patients get good or excellent results through chiropractic for headaches, neck pain, back pain, joint pain, to name just a few.

Chiropractic care is safe and cost-effective. It can decrease instances of surgery & disability. Chiropractors normally do this through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal time requirements or hassle to the patient. 

And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, chiropractors can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health of the patient!

Key Point:

Patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment offering the least harm.

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show or tell us your suggestions for future episodes. Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on iTunes and other podcast services. Y’all know how this works by now so help if you don’t mind taking a few seconds to do so.

Help us get to the top of podcasts in our industry. That’s how we get the message out. 

Connect

We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. 

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I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment instead of chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show that many patients get good or excellent results through chiropractic for headaches, neck pain, back pain, joint pain, to name just a few.

Chiropractic care is safe and cost-effective. It can decrease instances of surgery & disability. Chiropractors normally do this through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal time requirements or hassle to the patient. 

And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, chiropractors can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health of the patient!

Key Point:

Patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment offering the least harm.

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show or tell us your suggestions for future episodes. Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on iTunes and other podcast services. Y’all know how this works by now so help if you don’t mind taking a few seconds to do so.

Help us get to the top of podcasts in our industry. That’s how we get the message out. 

Connect

We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. 

Website

Social Media Links

https://www.facebook.com/chiropracticforward/

Chiropractic Forward Podcast Facebook GROUP

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1938461399501889/

Twitter

YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtc-IrhlK19hWlhaOGld76Q

iTunes

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/chiropractic-forward-podcast-chiropractors-practicing/id1331554445?mt=2

Player FM Link

https://player.fm/series/2291021

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https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-chiropractic-forward-podcast-chiropractors-practicing-through

TuneIn

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Dr. Jeff Williams – Chiropractor in Amarillo, TX, Chiropractic Advocate, Author, Entrepreneur, Educator, Businessman, Marketer, and Healthcare Blogger & Vlogger

w/ Dr. John Van Tassel – Chiropractor for Florida State on Mentorship, Work-Life Balance, & Life Long Lessons (Part One)

Today we’re going to talk with one of the neatest gentlemen I have had the honor of interacting with in the last couple of years. You are absolutely going to love this conversation with Dr. John Van Tassel from Tallahassee, Florida about being a chiropractor for Florida State, a Division I college. You just wait, you’ll see what I mean. 

But first, here’s that sneaky like a Florida gator bumper music

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OK, we are back. Welcome to the podcast today, I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.  

You have slithered right into Episode #82. When you have a guest from Florida, you think of gators and snakes. And Pablo Escobar and Miami Vice but we try to not get too under the table here on the Chiropractic Forward Podcast. 

Before we hop into the episode, let’s talk about GoChiroTV. GoChiroTV is a patient education system for your office that will eliminate the need for running cable TV or the same DVDs over and over again in your waiting room. The bite-sized videos are specifically made to inform your patients about the importance of chiropractic and healthy living, encourage referrals, and present the benefits of all the different products and services you offer.

It works by using a tailored-fit video playlist that will only promote the products and services available at your practice, and the videos are replaced automatically on a weekly basis. There’s no need to manually update your playlist or learn any complicated software. You truly can set it and forget it.

Listeners of the Chiropractic Forward Podcast can use the promo code CFP19 at checkout to get 15% off all subscriptions, which also comes with a 45-day free trial to see if it’s right for your practice. Your discounted rate will be locked in for as long as you have a subscription. 

So visit GoChiroMedia.com (that’s g-o-c-h-i-r-o-m-e-d-i-a-.com) to check out the demo reels, and to get started on your free trial. Take you practice to the next level with GoChiroTV.

Introduction

We’re here to advocate for chiropractic while we also make your life easier using research and some good solid common sense and smart talk. 

Go check our evidence-based brochures out at chiropracticforward.com under the store link. While you’re there, sign up for the newsletter won’t you? 

How about the previous two episodes we did with Dr. Anthony Nicholson on Chronic pain? That was basically a mini-masterclass folks. I hope you know that. If you know nothing of any substance about chronic pain, the previous two episodes are your starting points. 

You have to listen to me here. Just go listen. Thank me later. He is the Niagara Falls of knowledge nuggets folks. 

In personal happenings, my family experienced some unpleasantness this past weekend. My 7 year old blue European Great Dane passed away. We got the Euro Dane because they are supposed to be heartier than their American Dane counterparts. 

They think she developed some sort of tumor that zapped her weight, had her dehydrated, and just unable to walk or do anything. Not cool. It was the opposite of anything fun but, she’s not suffering and that’s the best you can ask for on that sort of deal. 

Now on to our special guest today. INTRODUCTION

He is a heck of a communicator. Any discussion I have seen him take part in on the Forward Thinking Chiropractic Alliance Facebook page….he’s the most thorough, most sensible, most sage-like if you will. I’ve even sent him patients all the way from where I sit here in Amarillo, TX. 

He’s the Yoda of chiropractors and I love reading his stories. If someone asks him a question, he doesn’t respond with a paragraph. He sits down and really thinks about it, considers it at length, and then responds with about a 5 paragraph guidance manual and I love it. 

Not to mention the fact that he’s one of the most accomplished you’ll find in any group anywhere. 

All of that is personal experience and fine and dandy but how about we give him an official introduction?

  • Graduating from Logan College of Chiropractic, Dr. John Van Tassel has been a chiropractor since 1991 and is the owner of Athletic and Family Chiropractic in Tallahassee, Florida. 
  • He has been an adjunct professor at Tallahassee Community College and Florida State University. 
  • He has been the FCA Sports Council Doctor of the Year
  • The ProSport Chiropractic Doctor of the Year for the Southeast Region
  • And has been a contributing author in various publications

What really gets one’s attention about Dr. Van Tassel is that he is the team chiropractor for the Florida State Seminoles. A perennial powerhouse of anything athletic in the SEC. 

We’re going to talk about all of it and you’re going to be fascinated so here we go. 

Let’s welcome to the show, the pride of Tallahassee, Dr. John Van Tassel. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your schedule to be with us today. 

Let’s start with a little humor. The first thing I want to know is…..what in the heck is up with Florida? There was even a Facebook game going around for a while where you just Google your birthday and the words “Florida man…” Lol. Are Floridians just inherently crazy?

Tell me….we all have a story that got us where we are. I always like to ask this question because chiropractic is a bit of a niche choice when choosing a career. What was your story toward being a chiropractor?

Now I noticed you’re originally from North Carolina. Why the move to Tallahassee. 

We became acquainted either through the evidence based chiropractic group or the forward thinking chiropractic alliance group. I can’t remember which but one of them for sure. They’re great groups. You’ll find people that are bull-headed that it’s their way or they scoff at you but that’s with any group really. Mostly….overall….they’re very friendly, very helpful, and very giving people. Giving of their experience and information as well as giving with their assistance should you need something. 

I always encourage anyone that considers themselves on the evidence-informed spectrum of the profession to join both groups. I learn SOMETHING from each of them just about every week. 

With that being said, I think you’ll agree that you are one of the more active members of the FTCA. Tell me about how you got involved with the Forward Thinking Chiropractic Alliance and what keeps you coming back daily.

One of the things that obviously sets you apart from the run-of-the-mill chiropractor is your involvement with Florida State. Let’s start at the beginning and just talk about that for a bit. How did you get started with a D-I program? Was it a specific certification that moved you in that direction? What’s it like day to day, month to month, and year to year? And has it morphed through the years? 

In our preparation for this episode, you mentioned that you enjoy mentoring younger practitioners. With that in mind, what advice do you feel is vital for someone just starting out trying to open or build their own practice?

Continuing with the mentoring theme, what do you find to be the important aspects of maintaining a healthy work/life balance?

You seem to have a unique ability to recall things. For example, I can’t remember what I had for lunch yesterday but you can recall happenings and conversations from 20 years ago. 

I really think, and I believe most of the FTCA members would agree, that you have the best stories and should probably be working on your first book by now. 

With that in mind, can you re-tell the one you shared yesterday about the carpal tunnel patient that went to the GP who basically told her you didn’t know what you were talking about?

Now, the reason I asked for that one specifically, is because you’re in an arena where you commonly interact with other practitioners from the medical field. Are you experiencing this sort of bias against chiropractic in that world as well? Why do you think MD’s still don’t understand what it is that we do?

One of my favorite stories of your was about your Wall of Fame down your hallway. I’m sure there are plenty of recognizable names on that but your favorite is Mrs. Jones. Someone nobody outside of your practice and her personal circle would know. Is that a story you would mind sharing with us?

I want to close with this because this may be something that people can really use as the key takeaway from our time together today. 

I was reading one of your posts that went like this, “I was just thinking about something while A plumber unclogs my system at the house. I tell people, patients and students and athletes mostly, that desire and passion and determination are key. But it’s our habits that get us where we are going. We accomplish goals by developing habits.”

Now, I don’t know how a plumber brings to mind things like goals and habits but, I couldn’t agree more. What would you say are your core habits that have made the difference in your career?

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Integrating Chiropractors
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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment instead of chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show that many patients get good or excellent results through chiropractic for headaches, neck pain, back pain, joint pain, to name just a few.

Chiropractic care is safe and cost-effective. It can decrease instances of surgery & disability. Chiropractors normally do this through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal time requirements or hassle to the patient. 

And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, chiropractors can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health of the patient!

Key Point:

Patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment offering the least harm.

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show or tell us your suggestions for future episodes. Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on iTunes and other podcast services. Y’all know how this works by now so help if you don’t mind taking a few seconds to do so.

Help us get to the top of podcasts in our industry. That’s how we get the message out. 

Connect

We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. 

Website

Social Media Links

https://www.facebook.com/chiropracticforward/

Chiropractic Forward Podcast Facebook GROUP

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1938461399501889/

Twitter

YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtc-IrhlK19hWlhaOGld76Q

iTunes

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/chiropractic-forward-podcast-chiropractors-practicing/id1331554445?mt=2

Player FM Link

https://player.fm/series/2291021

Stitcher:

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-chiropractic-forward-podcast-chiropractors-practicing-through

TuneIn

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About the Author & Host

Dr. Jeff Williams – Chiropractor in Amarillo, TX, Chiropractic Advocate, Author, Entrepreneur, Educator, Businessman, Marketer, and Healthcare Blogger & Vlogger

w/ Dr. Anthony Nicholson – (Part One) Decoding Chronic Pain

CF 080: w/ Anthony Nicholson – Decoding Chronic Pain

Today we’re going to be fortunate enough to be joined by Dr. Anthony Nicholson from Australia. It was so nice we had to do it twice. This time around though, we are focusing mostly on chronic pain. Pain in the frame, if you will. If you are new to the concept of chronic pain as part of a centralized experience, buckle up because the school bus is about to arrive

But first, here’s that delightful bumper music

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OK, we are back. Welcome to the podcast today, I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.  

You have skidded your way into Episode #80 and we are glad to have you. 

We here at the Chiropractic Forward Podcast have gotten fancy. 

I’m happy to introduce a new sponsor for the Chiropractic Forward Podcast called GoChiroTV. GoChiroTV is a patient education system for your office that will eliminate the need for running cable TV or the same DVDs over and over again in your waiting room. The bite-sized videos are specifically made to inform your patients about the importance of chiropractic and healthy living, encourage referrals, and present the benefits of all the different products and services you offer.

It works by using a tailored-fit video playlist that will only promote the products and services available at your practice, and the videos are replaced automatically on a weekly basis. There’s no need to manually update your playlist or learn any complicated software. You truly can set it and forget it.

Listeners of the Chiropractic Forward Podcast can use the promo code CFP19 at checkout to get 15% off all subscriptions, which also comes with a 45-day free trial to see if it’s right for your practice. Your discounted rate will be locked in for as long as you have a subscription. 

So visit GoChiroMedia.com (that’s g-o-c-h-i-r-o-m-e-d-i-a-.com) to check out the demo reels, and to get started on your free trial. Take you practice to the next level with GoChiroTV.

Store

Go check out chiropracticforward.com and go to the store link. That’s where you’ll find brochures a plenty to get you started with some good, solid patient education. They look sharp and they read smart if you’re picking up what I’m throwing down. 

Do it do it, chiropracticforward.com and sign up for our newsletter while you’re at it, won’t you?

I want to thank Dr. Nickell in Kansas City for your recent feedback and for all of your encouraging words. Made my day and I appreciate it. 

DACO

Let’s talk a bit about the DACO program. Not a lot to talk about right now. Just studying my little hiney off. I li e. Not about the studying. About being little. I’m a big guy. The studying part is good. I enjoy going back through the courses. 

It’s funny to see the sort of student I am at this time in my life compared to me in school. Lol. I guess I thought I HAD to do it the first time through so I wasn’t as interested as I probably should have been. NOW, I want to be learning so I’m all in and my notes and study habits certainly reflect the fact. 

Personal Happenings

If you hear something here that you really like and would like it in written form rather than spoken, just hop onto  chiropracticforward.com, find the episode, and just scroll down to copy and paste it. If you’re using it for content or on your website for some reason, just be cool and give us some credit please. I’d sure appreciate it and I’m sure the researchers we discuss would too. 

Now, let’s get to our incredible guest today. Dr. Tim Bertelsman, one of the most talented speakers out there on the circuit today, says that our guest is just one of those people that really make you proud to be a chiropractor and I agree 187%. 

That’s a glowing endorsement but that not my official intro. Here’s the official intro:

Dr Anthony Nicholson is the CEO of Chiropractic Development International (CDI), a global continuing education organization for chiropractors that he co-founded in 2002.  

CDI’s innovative online learning technology has led to formal accreditation in over 35 states in North America, along with a growing learner base in the UK, Europe and South East Asia.  

CDI provides 250 hours of advanced online clinical training for the Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine Program offered by the University of Bridgeport in Connecticut and had developed an online board examination for the Academy of Chiropractic Orthopedics.

As a partner of Spine Partners Wahroonga in Sydney Australia, Dr Nicholson is also a full-time chiropractic physician in private practice, is a board certified chiropractic neurologist (DACNB) and is board certified in Chiropractic Orthopedics (FACO).  That means he has a Diplomate in Neurology AND Orthopedics. 

In addition, he is an adjunct senior lecturer in Neuromusculoskeletal Diagnosis and Evidence-based Practice at Macquarie University ion Sydney’s north shore.  

Welcome to the show Dr. Nicholson thank you for joining us for the second time.

We already had you on the show for a two-part discussion so we have already covered a lot of topics from medical marketing, to CDI, to the DACO. For this episode, I’d like to concentrate mostly on the topic of pain. Particulary centralized pain. 

When I started the DACO program I had no idea what you were talking about. I was slow to the show but find myself fascinated by it all. 

I don’t know if this is the best starting point or not but….What is pain? What basic responses are needed in response to a noxious stimulus? 

OK, now we know what pain is…can you tell us….what is chronic pain? How is it defined?

I believe this questions will lead us into the big concept. Can you tell us a bit about neuroplasticity? What is it? What does the term mean and what do we know about it now vs. traditional thinking on neuroplasticity?

OK….here’s the big question and the reason I wanted to do this interview with you. This question may just take up the majority of the episode and that’s OK. That’s what we’re here for and this questions gets to the foundation of it. 

For our audience’s benefit, what’s the difference between peripheral pain sources and central pain sources and what exactly is an upregulated or a sensitized central nervous system?

Let’s say someone has a bad shoulder for a while…..does anyone that has had literally anything hurting for 3 months or more now have an upregulated CNS?

Other than hurting chronically, are there other signs and symptoms that can give us a clue someone is suffering from chronic pain or are in chronic pain syndrome?

To me, having chronic pain at one site seems different than chronic pain SYNDROME. Let’s continue with the person with the bad shoulder for six months. Is that considered being in chronic pain syndrome vs. just having chronic shoulder pain?

What are we learning about centralized chronic pain and how to treat it effectively? What do you do in your office to treat it?

Let’s say someone doesn’t have the time or maybe the money to go through the DACO. Where would you tell them to start searching to learn more on the condition?

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment instead of chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show that many patients get good or excellent results through chiropractic for headaches, neck pain, back pain, joint pain, to name just a few.

Chiropractic care is safe and cost-effective. It can decrease instances of surgery & disability. Chiropractors normally do this through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal time requirements or hassle to the patient. 

And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, chiropractors can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health of the patient!

Key Point:

Patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment offering the least harm.

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show or tell us your suggestions for future episodes. Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on iTunes and other podcast services. Y’all know how this works by now so help if you don’t mind taking a few seconds to do so.

Help us get to the top of podcasts in our industry. That’s how we get the message out. 

Connect

We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. 

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w/ Dr. Kris Anderson – FQHC, Chiropractic Research, and Professionalism

CF 079: w/ Dr. Kris Anderson – FQHC, Chiropractic Research, and Professionalism

Today we’re going to be joined by a special guest Dr. Kris Anderson from North Dakota. Yes, North Dakota’s finest is here to tell us about some of the stuff he’s got shaking and there’s a lot of stuff shaking thanks to this amazing guy. 

But first, here’s that silky satiny bumper music

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OK, we are back. Welcome to the podcast today, I’m Dr. Jeff Williams and I’m your host for the Chiropractic Forward podcast.  

You have collapsed into Episode #79

Introduction

We’re here to advocate for chiropractic while we also make your life easier using research and some good solid common sense and smart talk. 

Store

Part of making your life easier is having the right patient education tools in your office. Tools that educate based on solid, researched information. We offer you that. It’s done for you. I just got in my first box. I started with the non-surgical spinal decompression brochures. I wanted them for myself and ordered enough to send you some too!

If you’re like me, you get tired of answering the same old questions. Well, these brochures make great ways of educating while saving yourself time and breath. They’re also great for putting in take-home folders. 

Go check them out at chiropracticforward.com under the store link. While you’re there, sign up for the newsletter won’t you? We won’t spam you. Just one email per week to remind you when the new episode comes out. That’s it. 

DACO

Let’s talk a bit about the DACO program. I’m still studying. Nothing sexy there. I will say that the second time through the material is really really valuable. At least for me it is. I forget so much. Especially being 46. Not only am I older and I don’t remember things at the level I once did, but I also think I’m undiagnosed ADD. 

If I see anything shiny, man, I’m off in a completely different direction. When you have computers and phones dinging at you all the damn time, it’s tough. I have tried to minimize my notifications on the electronics. I’ve tried to keep my phone turned to do not disturb and all that good stuff. I can’t deal with all the racket when I’m trying to focus on something. 

So, yes, the second time through, for me, is of high value. 

Personal Happenings

If you hear something here that you really like and would like it in written form rather than spoken, just hop onto  chiropracticforward.com, find the episode, and just scroll down to copy and paste it. If you’re using it for content or on your website for some reason, just be cool and give us some credit please. I’d sure appreciate it and I’m sure the researchers we discuss would too. 

Now, let’s get ot our guest today. 

Sometimes, we have doctors on as guests that not everyone knows. I think that if you do not know our next guest, you either should or will know him in due time. He is a mover and shaker in our profession and is really just getting started. Some people cannot be ignored and I think our guest is one of those. Without a doubt. 

He is the current President of the North Dakota Chiropractic Association and was voted Chriopractor of the Year last year for the NDCA. That’s a pretty big deal. 

He has worked on behalf of the State of North Dakota with payers, legislatyors, government agencies, and other healthcare and community stakeholders. We’ll be finding out more about that in a bit. 

He has helped conduct research on safety as well on a smoking cessation pilot study.  

He was part of a study team whose systematic review of manual therapy for pediatric patients was published in BMC Complementary and Alternative Medicine. 

He treats part time as an employee of his local FQHC. Which stands for Federally Qualified Health Center. He’s their first chiropractor so I can’t wait to learn more about how that is progressing and what challenges he is encountering as he goes. 

If all of that were not enough, he is currently the AMA RUC HCPAC ACA Alternate Advisor. Don’t feel bad if you don’t know what that is because I had to ask too. We’ll tell you about it. Some of it is super double top secret but interesting for sure. 

He is also in the middle of a North Dakota Department of Health grant to help expand detection and management of hypertension within our profession. 

Now….now do you see why we have him here with us today? You may or may not know the name Kris Anderson but I feel confident the entire profession is going to know who he is by the time he’s done leaving his dent on our profession. 

We are happy to welcome Dr. Kris Anderson to the Chiropractic Forward Podcast today. Thank you for joining us today Dr. Anderson. 

My first question for you is, “When the hell do you ever sleep?” You have a ton of stuff going on.

I noticed on your CV that you worked as a barista at Starbuck’s during your time at Palmer. I’m not sure how anyone can hold a job while going through chiropractic college but, is this a skill that has paid off for you? Do you have an espresso machine in your office?

When I go through your information, you are involved in so many things. For example, I see your are District 4’s representative for Clinical Compass, Delphi Panelist, Grantee from ND Dept. of Health, Committee member for Notrh Dakota State Board of Chiropractic Examiners, ACA, and on and on. Where does all of this stem from? I’ve never even considered district representative for Clinical Compass was even a thing. Lol. 

We covered a paper you were part of back in Episode #68. In fact, that may be how we became familiar with each other. The paper was callled “Manual therapy for the pediatric population: a systematic review. It was in the BMC Complementary and Alternative Medicine(Prevost C 2019) just this year. I want to know all about it. How did you get involved with the team? Tell us a little about the process. 

This study came out at just about the same time as the Australians and certain spots in Canada started dealing with attacks on their rights to treat pediatric patients woith chiropractic care. What amazing timing. First, are pediatric patients a significant part of your practice and secondly, what has been the reception globally in regards to the paper’s findings?

As you probably well know, Texas has been in quite a battle with our state medical association. You are clearly as deeply involved in your state’s association. What challenges are the North Dakota chiropractors facing in 2019?

Do you have any specific goals to work on as President of the North Dakota Chiropractic Association?

Tell me about the gig with the FQHC? Dr. James Lehman was on our podcast in episode #55 and he was discussing the FQHC’s and integrating. He felt integration into them would be helped by completing a specialization like the DACO or something like that. What is your opinion on that? How did you get involved? 

What does your day at the FQHC look like?

Being the FQHC’s first chiropractor, what biases or other issues are you finding yourself having to address and navigate?

Tell us more about the grant you are in the middle of for the North Dakota Department of Health? How did it come about? What is the mission?

Let’s talk about alphabet soup….. AMA RUC HCPAC ACA Alternate Advisor. I promise, almost no person alive knows what all of that stands for so do us a favor and break it down for us and tell me what the purpose is. What’s the goal and how does it help chiropractors?

Those of us that have been active know the difference between being a member and being an active member. What has it meant to you both personally and professionally to not only be a member of your state association but to also be active in it? 

When we are sitting in our offices in Amarillo, TX or in Grand Forks, North Dakota, Washington DC and the ACA seems far away and somewhat out of reach. What have you seen is an effective way to become active with the ACA on a national level?

What’s coming down the pike for you in the next 5 years and in the next 10 years? Where do you see all of your efforts headed. Or where do you hope they’re headed?

Thanks for joining us

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The Message

I want you to know with absolute certainty that when Chiropractic is at its best, you can’t beat the risk vs reward ratio because spinal pain is primarily a movement-related pain and typically responds better to movement-related treatment instead of chemical treatments like pills and shots.

When compared to the traditional medical model, research and clinical experience show that many patients get good or excellent results through chiropractic for headaches, neck pain, back pain, joint pain, to name just a few.

Chiropractic care is safe and cost-effective. It can decrease instances of surgery & disability. Chiropractors normally do this through conservative, non-surgical means with minimal time requirements or hassle to the patient. 

And, if the patient develops a “preventative” mindset going forward from initial recovery, chiropractors can likely keep it that way while raising the general, overall level of health of the patient!

Key Point:

Patients should have the guarantee of having the best treatment offering the least harm.

That’s Chiropractic!

Contact

Send us an email at dr dot williams at chiropracticforward.com and let us know what you think of our show or tell us your suggestions for future episodes. Feedback and constructive criticism is a blessing and so are subscribes and excellent reviews on iTunes and other podcast services. Y’all know how this works by now so help if you don’t mind taking a few seconds to do so.

Help us get to the top of podcasts in our industry. That’s how we get the message out. 

Connect

We can’t wait to connect with you again next week. From the Chiropractic Forward Podcast flight deck, this is Dr. Jeff Williams saying upward, onward, and forward. 

Website

Social Media Links

https://www.facebook.com/chiropracticforward/

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Twitter

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Prevost C, G. B., Carleo B, (2019). “Manual therapy for the pediatric population: a systematic review.” BMC Comp Altern Med 19(60).